Genesis - Duke

Heathaze is my favourite song on the album..

Chris S wrote: Melomaniac wrote: Chris S wrote: ^ Imagine Pepsi changing it's name cos of introducing reduced sugar content....Sorry but the ' Genesis' brand deserved to stay up to and including CAS I understand your point, but I think that they kept on using the Genesis brand name because it was already known.  The thing is, it wasn't Genesis anymore, the same way that Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe weren't Yes, and they only had Squire missing, whereas Genesis no longer had Gabriel nor Hackett aboard... ...and I do like Calling all Stations also ! No I know you like the pop period and respect but your comment above is plain wrong..IMHO :-)

No problem at all, Chris, I'm not about to cry out loud or hate you due to a difference of opinion, I have the courage of my convictions and don't need approval for me to validate them. And I understand how my opinion can be seen as wrong, but I still stand by it ! 

Don't get me wrong though, I love the pop period !!!

^Agreed.  Otherwise, why only when Hackett left?  Why not when Gabriel left?  Or Phillips?  Or Chris Stewart?  A change in personnel doesn't usually bring about a name change in the band, especially when the leaving member wasn't even an original member of the band.  Genesis existed prior to Hackett, why not after Hackett? 

Edited by The Doctor - February 13 2013 at 14:43

Duke, to me, is my favorite album from this period.  ATTWT was a weird album by a band that could'nt decide if they could make the transition from prog to mainstream pop, or if they decided, it was not assumed.  On Duke, not only was the change assumed, it was successful.  Abacab has a few great songs and a few clunkers, Genesis is a classic, Invisible Touch has a lot of amazing pop songs on it, We Can't Dance contains THE BEST Genesis songs ever since Hackett left (Fading Lights and Driving the Last Spike) and great pop numbers (No Son of Mine, I Can't Dance, etc...)

Chris S wrote: Really pleasing to be in a thread appreciating their Duke++++ albums. Also on the whole the enjoyment of their 'popoular' period. Abacab, Mama, Duke all great albums. Some of us grew with the band as it evolved and love almost every minute of it , others left around ATTWT and never came back save to diss their modern stuff on forums like PA

Yes! You know, I picked up a cheap copy of the remastered `Abacab' CD in a local music shop and gave it to a prog friend of mine who has a few scattered Genesis albums. When he asked what did it sound like, I essentially had to say it was something like `experimental, new wave, funk, reggae prog/pop'! :)

Even a more obvious `single' track like `No Reply At All' has terrific (and mixed LOUD) bass playing.

Plenty of great stuff on that album! What a band! :)

Doctor, I seem to recall I've got a bootleg somewhere where the band played `It's Gonna Get Better' live with an extended ambient synth intro that was really rather good. Tom Ozric on here could confirm this or not, as I think we heard it together many years ago?

Snow, I promise I'll go in with no preconceived hang-ups about the self-titled album and listen with open ears! I remember I used to dread `Abacab', nowadays I find it a hugely inventive, original and varied album I have a lot of love for!

The last two songs have a bit of redeeming value:  Silver Rainbow's music isn't all that bad, but the lyrics are rubbish, Tony's worst IMO.  Dude, you're in your early 30's, did you really just write a song about losing your virginity?    The last song is ok, but that's about it.  It's ok. 

Yes, Doctor, the first side is so strong!! The dark vile `Mama', the upbeat but enjoyable `That's All' (I've actually sung this at karaoke many years ago, and totally got everyone clapping along lol! ) and the proggy `Home By The Sea'.

Side two....man that `Alien' song is unbearable, and the accent bits make it even worse....the Detective song (forget the name, the one that goes `I got a name, I got a number, I'm coming down hard on you' etc ) is rubbish too. I forget the more ballady tracks, so I think I might dig it out for a fresh spin, haven't listen to it in quite a while! Wish me luck! :)