system of a down? Prog?

spectral wrote: 1. I didn't realise there was an etiquette for expressing one's opinion?

BTW: There's no etiquette for expressing opinions ... but there's a difference between opinions, accusations, insults and just wrong facts.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: You should read my post again ... you didn't understand a single word I said. I DON'T have any problem with people who don't like SOAD. I'm not even a big fan myself. But you said that I'm an idiot. Not just now, but in the post I was answering, by saying that SOAD objectively are crap. By saying so, you implicitly call anyone an idiot who happens to disagree. There's a subtle difference between saying they're  "pure metal bullsh*t/ bag of steaming sh*te" or "I DON'T like what they do". The first is ignorant and offensive, the second is perfectly agreeable.

1. I didn't realise there was an etiquette for expressing one's opinion?  Is there a list of words I can use or perhaps phrases I can choose from.  Perhaps all posts should be vetted to ensure the opinion is not going to disgruntle someone or to ensure it conforms to everyone else's.

2. it's not ignorant to say they are a bag of steaming sh1te.  I've listened to a lot of their music and I am happy to say that it is a bag of steaming sh1te.

3. I called you an idiot in reference to your childish comments to ignore my posts, not in reference to SOAD.  where in my previous post where I called SOAD a bag of steaming sh1te did I say that you or anyone else is an idiot?  If you are so hyper-sensitive that you take an opinion about a band as personal attack, then you need to re-assess visting forums for discussion on music.

By the way, we don't live in a fascist state.  We have the freedom to express our opinions in anyway we like.  Calling them a bag of steaming sh1te is hardly directing my dislike of their music at anyone; I'm saying that I don't like their music, not the people who listen to their music - which is what we are discussing here.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: An you are number 2 ... congratulations to you as well.

You are such a f***ing idiot.  I cannot stand SOAD; my dislike for their music transcends genres.  They may be good at what they do, but I DON'T like what they do.  So go ahead, ignore me.  It's always intelligent to ignore people with an opposing opinion, NOT!

Borealis wrote: The problem is people who like prog think everything they like is prog, or do not want to like things other than prog, so they try to make everything they like to fit in the prog genre. Tou can like music other than prog, it's quiet possible... I herd a song from system of a down the other day, it was called BOYB, or well, it was 4 capitalized letters, and let me tell you it was pure metal bullsh*t, nothing even close to prog.

I don't get it ... in the first paragraph you try to describe that it's possible to like other things than prog. So far, so good ... but in the second paragraph, you go completely over the top and call SOAD bullsh*t. You can't get much more stupid and ignorant than that ...

People, you're making a fool of yourself when you bash bands from other genres which are - objectively - very good at what they're doing. Fell free to say anything you want, but don't complain about other people not taking you seriously after such statements.

So congratulations Borealis, you're the first on my ignore list. ...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: DavidInsabella wrote: seabre wrote: If you're going to go into a "punk prog" area. The Mars Volta is the closest thing to that.. No they aren't. That would imply that The Mars Volta is a gray area between the two, but the Mars Volta is more progressive than many of the groups from the 70s. There are no punk elements in the Mars Volta's music. They play loud and fast, so does Dream Theater. Are they a punk band? TMV have a punk heritage. I agree that there's not much Punk audible in their music, but If you know Omar and Cedric from ATD, you see/hear the connection.

I can't stand the whole punk prog label. Most of the groups put under it are punk bands that happen to have competent musicians. Just because a punk band never did something doesn't mean it hasn't been done many times before.