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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2012 at 13:09
Originally posted by Quirky Turkey Quirky Turkey wrote:

Im in Australia and have been looking forward to the arrival of Yes in April. After hearing the news about the new singer I listened to Glass Hammer, and now I'm even more excited. Jon's better that Benoit.


I'm in complete agreement, M8!  

I'm a street-team member for Glass Hammer, this was just posted to their Facebook page:


(here's an extract)

 Jon Davison, Glass Hammer & Yes

There was much debate last year among the cognoscenti of prog about Benoit David's role as the singer with Yes, particularly after the release of the much-awaited album, 'Fly From Here'.  David had been a touring member of the band for a few years, but this was his first recording with them, and most people thought that he had done a creditable job, though Jon Anderson will always be regarded by the purists as the only 'true' singer with Yes.

On tour with the rest of the new line-up of the band last year he handled the 'classic' material well, and showed that his years as a 'Yes tribute' vocalist had not been wasted. But then news came that the rigours of touring, and of singing consistently in the ranges that Yes's music calls for, had taken their toll. The last few dates of the European leg of the tour were called off, and subsequently it was announced that Benoit had left the band.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2012 at 23:42
Im in Australia and have been looking forward to the arrival of Yes in April. After hearing the news about the new singer I listened to Glass Hammer, and now I'm even more excited. Jon's better that Benoit.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2012 at 18:08
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

 
I have a big Prague guide book.  If I ever win the lottery I will MOVE there!  I do want to go
see it one day, at least.  Perhaps Europe's most beautiful city, I say.
 
No, I have not heard any Czech Prog bands (I enjoyed Poland's Quidam, so I don't need music
sung in English...)
 
Can you suggest any? (no screamers please, I am not a big metal guy.)
 
Cheers!
 
DM
 


Sure! I would definitely suggest or rather strongly recommend two bands, both 70s classic prog albums,

Flamengo - Kure v hodinkach
Fermata - Huascaran

First band is quite in style of first KC (saxes, flute), Yes, Jethro Tull or early Uriah Heep (wonderful vocal stylings). Musicianship and compositions are that good. But they are not copycat by any means, album has  its unique atmosphere, contains some weird instruments, and beautiful Czech poetry.:)
Second band is Slovakian one, it represents top notch prog/fusion, sort of Mahavisnu Orchestra class, but with somehow distinguishing, slavic flavor. Very emotional, concept, instrumental album.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2012 at 15:44
Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

 
Are you really from the Czech Republic?  My grandparents came from there...

Do you know any Czech (Czech-slovakian) prog then?) 
 
I have a big Prague guide book.  If I ever win the lottery I will MOVE there!  I do want to go
see it one day, at least.  Perhaps Europe's most beautiful city, I say.
 
No, I have not heard any Czech Prog bands (I enjoyed Poland's Quidam, so I don't need music
sung in English...)
 
Can you suggest any? (no screamers please, I am not a big metal guy.)
 
Cheers!
 
DM
 


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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2012 at 10:01
yeah, that tour in 02 when Wakeman came back was great.  got to see Revealing Science of God before they dropped it.  that could've been the end.  however, the tried to do the 35 year anniversary thing and ended up having to play arenas that were half full and part of them drapped off.  too bad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2012 at 09:25
Frankly, Glass Hammer makes a far better Yes than current Yes does.  They are not my favorite band, but they make decent music.

If Yes wanted to retire with dignity, they would have had to do it 10 years ago.  Now, it's far far too late for that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 14:53
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

Jon Davison... omg, he's actually very similar to David, but even more cheesy. First I heard GH I thought David sings there... Nobody from them comes close to charismatic voice and typical contoure of Anderson voice, let alone his personality. Trevor Horn is different from Anderson, but he has these attributes - personality and charisma. These guys don't have. Glass Hammer is type of horrible Yes wannabe, at least their two last albums. They IMO totally lack sense for a melody, structure, compositional or lyrical talent. Random ideas, nothing memorable. Yes are alredy caricatures of themselves, but still pushing it further. Hoping Anderson-Rabin-Wakeman project will come out one day, to save the grace of Yes family.
Hi stewe, Big smile
 
Are you really from the Czech Republic?  My grandparents came from there...

Yes, beautiful country!) Do you know any Czech (Czech-slovakian) prog then?) 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 14:51
glass hammer is great for those who like retro.  as for a new yes album, it'll be hard to top FFH.  i really liked it and think it'll probably be their swan song...i hate to say it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 14:04
Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

Jon Davison... omg, he's actually very similar to David, but even more cheesy. First I heard GH I thought David sings there... Nobody from them comes close to charismatic voice and typical contoure of Anderson voice, let alone his personality. Trevor Horn is different from Anderson, but he has these attributes - personality and charisma. These guys don't have. Glass Hammer is type of horrible Yes wannabe, at least their two last albums. They IMO totally lack sense for a melody, structure, compositional or lyrical talent. Random ideas, nothing memorable. Yes are alredy caricatures of themselves, but still pushing it further. Hoping Anderson-Rabin-Wakeman project will come out one day, to save the grace of Yes family.
Hi stewe, Big smile
 
Are you really from the Czech Republic?  My grandparents came from there...
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 13:45
Jon Davison... omg, he's actually very similar to David, but even more cheesy. First I heard GH I thought David sings there... Nobody from them comes close to charismatic voice and typical contoure of Anderson voice, let alone his personality. Trevor Horn is different from Anderson, but he has these attributes - personality and charisma. These guys don't have. Glass Hammer is type of horrible Yes wannabe, at least their two last albums. They IMO totally lack sense for a melody, structure, compositional or lyrical talent. Random ideas, nothing memorable. Yes are alredy caricatures of themselves, but still pushing it further. Hoping Anderson-Rabin-Wakeman project will come out one day, to save the grace of Yes family.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 10:40
This is perfect chance for Chris Squire to recruit a awesome guitar player and make a side project called Cinema or something. Oh wait......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 10:06
Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

Benoit David probably strained his voice trying to sing higher than his natural voice goes! Hope he recovers soon and we get another great Mystery album. IMO the last two Mystery albums were better than the last couple of Yes albums. Unless they decide to try and create something fresh they should quit.
Hi Wanorak,
 
Allow me to step in here and demand all of your Lupins(they are brightly coloured flowers in case you didn't know)
Oops.. sorry, old habits die hard...
 
My point of interjecting is:
 
I think Mystery - One Among The Living is fantastic!!!   A little too much reverb on the overall mix but it cranks up
on the stereo quite nicely, thank you.  Benoit's voice is very expressive on that record. I hope Mystery can follow that up . Plus, who doesn't like Canadians who can write and play the guitar???Thumbs Up
 
Cheers!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 09:58
Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

squire is hilarious in his outfits. part of the fun i guess.  i'd also add Future Times to the setlist.  great tune.  

my hunch is that we might see a classic line up pull together an album that is, hopefully, better than mediocre.  then maybe a run of shows in london and new york.  then they will fade away with yes and all the other projects that no one cares about...except maybe steve howe solo albums...i like many of those
 
Dude, if we keep meeting up up like this people will start to talk...Wink
Serioulsy, I could not let your "Future Times" remark stand alone...
 
Future Times Rocks!!!!  Alan White playing a millitary snare???  That takes stones, man!  What coolness!  God I miss those old "North Tom Toms" of Alan's.Approve
 
Tormato was recorded so thin & harsh, but the actual songs, Future Times/Rejoice & Release Release & Silent Wings
are as good as any music I have heard.ClapClapClap
 
I do think you are right and that Jon will play with Alan, Steve & Chris once more.  It would be nice for Wake-E-Mon to join as well. Though I would defend YES to the death in a musical discussion, they have not done anything close to even the Tormato stuff you and I have been mentioning.  All JA  - YES has been some good stuff some bad, since the SLO reunion in 1996, so the odds of JA -YES delivering what we all want are slim.  Though I always keep the faith!Smile


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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 08:30
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

  I actually thought of the amount of original members needed to keep the band the same band--the answer in a 5 piece group is 3. Smile    In Yes' case where there is a Steve Howe there is the possibility of Yes.
 
Steve Howe isn't an "original" member.

In my mind he is---ha ha---(or put Banks in if it want I always wanted to hear him play CTTE. )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 05:58
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Well if David is out what's stopping Jon Anderson from resettling in?

Himself. he doesn't want too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 05:49
Well if David is out what's stopping Jon Anderson from resettling in?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2012 at 05:09
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

  I actually thought of the amount of original members needed to keep the band the same band--the answer in a 5 piece group is 3. Smile    In Yes' case where there is a Steve Howe there is the possibility of Yes.
 
Steve Howe isn't an "original" member.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2012 at 21:56
  I actually thought of the amount of original members needed to keep the band the same band--the answer in a 5 piece group is 3. Smile    In Yes' case where there is a Steve Howe there is the possibility of Yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2012 at 21:33
My interest has been "how many members can be swapped out before the band is no longer the same band?" 

Robert Fripp says it's "all but me."  Chris Squire is in the same boat, but for different reasons.

But suppose Jon Davison replaced Benoit David, and Fred Schendel had to replace Geoff Downes, and Steve Babb replaced Chris Squire, and Alan Shikoh replaced Steve Howe, and Alan White continued drumming: Are they still Yes?

To put it another way, when does Anakin Skywalker stop being Anakin Skywalker?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2012 at 21:17
Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:

Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

Benoit David probably strained his voice trying to sing higher than his natural voice goes! Hope he recovers soon and we get another great Mystery album. IMO the last two Mystery albums were better than the last couple of Yes albums. Unless they decide to try and create something fresh they should quit.

yeah, new mystery would be cool.  i don't get why these dudes don't use octave pedals on their voice.  i know joe perry from def leopard uses one and it sounds great.  at leas some pitch correction.  the harmonies were pretty rough with Yes last summer.  Geddy lee should use one too,

I suggested Autotune on PA and was soundly thrashed!   I was interested in it more for its aural sound effects vs. pitch correction. 

My suggestion is to only go where nature allows you to go.  Some vocal processing is amazing, and as a guy who's been in the studio, you'd be amazed at what many of our heroes would sound like singing without compression & a touch of delay!  

If bands can't do the harmonies like the old days, they need to either go much younger, bring on a few backup singers, or hire a woman as a replacement lead vocalist (Annie Haslam would have been an amazing Yes vocalist!).  

Recycling tribute band vocalists seems to be a losing strategy for rock bands, they eventually give out 'cause they are not full-time singers with strong pipes.   
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