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Nathaniel607
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 18:36 |
It's fine. I really try to dismiss as few genres as possible. Very few genres are intrinsically broken as forms of music (well... in my opinion, I guess).
Err... but more specifically, I haven't heard tons, but stuff I've hear, is lovely, and people just seem to hate it because it's inspired by the greats and dismiss it all. It seems to me that if a lot of them took the time to listen to some, they would realise there's a lot of original compositions and ideas involved.
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Logan
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 18:19 |
I don't like Neo-Prog, but then I tend not to care for "melodic rock" oriented music.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 17:23 |
I'm not against it and in fact enjoy quite a bit of it. But none of it has wowed me the way other prog rock has.
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The T
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 16:51 |
I love it. Give me Arena, IQ, Pallas, and Fish-Marillion (plus Brave) any hour of the day. I have never understand the bad reputation it seems to have. Some of my favorite albums listed in PA belong to neo-prog. And Genesis's "And then there were three" and "Duke", both of which I love, would quite nicely fit in the genre, too.
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jean-marie
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 16:40 |
In the eighties i didn't like what was called Neo Prog, these last days , i'm realy keen on Marillion ( Hogart time ) and Pendragon ( was at the show in Paris last week )
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zravkapt
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 16:40 |
I think people who enjoy Neo the most are those with a very mainstream taste in music generally. I can't get into Marillion, they seem too poppy and soft-rock-y to my ears, not what I'm looking for in "prog." I heard one IQ album and thought it was decent but nothing special. Right now, I'm listening to the first Pallas album and plan on reviewing it at some point. I enjoy this album much more than what I have heard of Marillion or IQ. I have a feeling that I would like the Neo of the '90s and 00s more than the 80s stuff.
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 15:57 |
I don't generally like the Neo Prog from the 80's specifically, because I think it sounds too watered-down and derivative of bands like Genesis and Rush. On the other hand, I think Neo-Prog got better in the 90's. For example, Marillion and Dream Theater left behind the glam-rock and revitalized/enhanced their sound during this period. Marillion especially changed, for obvious reasons.
There are many people who do like Neo-Prog and will vouch for it strongly. I'm not one of them, but to each his/her own.
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sleeper
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 15:54 |
Its a worthwhile genre and when done at its best, is excellent. The likes of Marillion, Pendragon, IQ, Arena, Pallas, Saens and a few others have released some really good albums, and despite what some people insist on believeing , none of them where ever Genesis clones as the arrangments and composition was always very different. The problem with it is is that there is an awful lot of half-assed rubbish in the genre thats best described as prog by numbers with no creativity at all, let alone originality. Its also noticable that a lot of the bands are good to great live, but their studio albums lack any real bite to them.
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1791 Overture
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 15:42 |
Apparently, a lot of people really hate the genre, and I've never been able to figure out why. Is it because it's considered "watered-down" progressive music? The cheesy 80's synths used at its inception? Not enough folk, jazz, or avant-noise?
Personally, I think it's one of the best genres of popular music around because of its strict focus on excellent songwriting as its only hook. It uses prog elements in a smart and conservative way and devotes itself to those elements of prog that were developed uniquely as part of the genre, rather than borrowed from others. I also enjoy how it has become heavier recently, embracing a blend of grit and sophistication that prog metal attempted but in my opinion never really realized. The bass is generally highly melodic yet very forceful, which is one of my favorite aspects of rock music. The tendency toward a conceptual and professional atmosphere is the icing on the cake.
So, what do you guys think? I know there are quite a few reviewers here who like it, but I don't know if it's as universally accepted as "good" music as, say, Zeuhl or RIO, which I think is unfair.
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