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giselle
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 08:04 |
Passionist wrote:
dr prog wrote:
You sound a bit old fashioned
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Here, fixed it for ya
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You sound like you need to grow up.
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Passionist
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 07:20 |
dr prog wrote:
You sound a bit old fashioned |
Here, fixed it for ya
Edited by Passionist - May 11 2011 at 07:21
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giselle
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 07:15 |
dr prog wrote:
[QUOTE=giselle][QUOTE=dr prog][QUOTE=giselle][QUOTE=Ozexpat] [QUOTE=giselle][QUOTE=Ozexpat]
You sound a bit old fashioned |
I probably am; I'm not fooled by superficial decoration and organisation that tries to cover for lack of chemistry. It's also easier to fool people via recordings than it is with live concerts. I'd say the later records are obviously far better made than "This Was", but the band wasn't as good to listen to live, unless you are a cut-and-dried fan. And I didn't say the other versions of the band were bad; I said they weren't as good.
You sound a bit set in your ways.
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dr prog
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 06:35 |
giselle wrote:
dr prog wrote:
giselle wrote:
Of course it's a matter of opinion, and 'definitive' is in the ear of the listener as well as the figures for the record sales, but that isn't necessarily the same as thing as the 'product' being artistically accurate or valid. As far as I'm concerned, the 'guests' you mention were collaborators/assistants in Ian Anderson's projects, not fully-fledged band members as such. If Ian could have gone to the concerts and played all the instruments himself he would have done. He's a clever and talented guy, but it makes it all too one-dimensional. I heard several of these incarnations 'live'. I stand by my opinion - the original band was the best, and in fact, the only 'band' as such. |
Raw Jazzy Blues from 1968 better than the advanced prog folk and heavy rock compositions spanning 1969-82? I don't think so |
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm also entitled to mine, and that's the opposite. And I also saw every incarnation 'live', which convinces me even more. |
You sound a bit old fashioned
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giselle
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 05:29 |
dr prog wrote:
giselle wrote:
Of course it's a matter of opinion, and 'definitive' is in the ear of the listener as well as the figures for the record sales, but that isn't necessarily the same as thing as the 'product' being artistically accurate or valid. As far as I'm concerned, the 'guests' you mention were collaborators/assistants in Ian Anderson's projects, not fully-fledged band members as such. If Ian could have gone to the concerts and played all the instruments himself he would have done. He's a clever and talented guy, but it makes it all too one-dimensional. I heard several of these incarnations 'live'. I stand by my opinion - the original band was the best, and in fact, the only 'band' as such. |
Raw Jazzy Blues from 1968 better than the advanced prog folk and heavy rock compositions spanning 1969-82? I don't think so |
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm also entitled to mine, and that's the opposite. And I also saw every incarnation 'live', which convinces me even more.
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dr prog
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 05:15 |
giselle wrote:
Of course it's a matter of opinion, and 'definitive' is in the ear of the listener as well as the figures for the record sales, but that isn't necessarily the same as thing as the 'product' being artistically accurate or valid. As far as I'm concerned, the 'guests' you mention were collaborators/assistants in Ian Anderson's projects, not fully-fledged band members as such. If Ian could have gone to the concerts and played all the instruments himself he would have done. He's a clever and talented guy, but it makes it all too one-dimensional. I heard several of these incarnations 'live'. I stand by my opinion - the original band was the best, and in fact, the only 'band' as such. |
Raw Jazzy Blues from 1968 better than the advanced prog folk and heavy rock compositions spanning 1969-82? I don't think so
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leonalvarado
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 01:23 |
As we are on the subject, On my latest post on my blog I talk about working with Jethro Tull as well as some examples of the work. I hope that some of you find it somewhat interesting.
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Textbook
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Posted: May 09 2011 at 23:01 |
As I understand it there is to be a final studio album, one more mega tour and then that's it.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 06 2011 at 13:27 |
Evolver wrote:
You may have the wrong album:
From jtull.com:
"Aqualung 40th Anniversary Tour hits USA/Canada in June, Ian solo dates in Latin America, and more!" |
I would rather see them do TAAB in it's entirety if they could pull it off but I don't even think that they did it back in the seventies at all. Aqualung is just too high up there on the familiarity scale. It was definitely the Tull album that got the most airplay. But then again a few bands are doing this nowadays playing classic albums in their entirety. Black Sabbath did Heaven & Hell ( as Heaven & Hll 0 and Rush is currently on tour doing Moving Pictures. I Guess TAAB would be over the top for many though. How about KC doing Red in it's entirety? Bob would never do that although I've seen them play it live on a few occasions.
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Posted: May 05 2011 at 20:15 |
Sanmartinphase7 wrote:
As a matter of fact I just came upon this:
In Ian's words: “Yeah, that record is the subject of discussions with EMI at the moment because we’re doing some remixing and remastering in 5.1 Sound, a kind of collector’s edition which we’ll release this year to celebrate the anniversary of Aqualung,” Anderson explains. “And then next year is the 40th anniversary of Thick As A Brick, so we’re already looking at the 2012 calendar and beginning to put together tours to regenerate theThick As A Brick material in live performance for the first time since 1972, in its entirety.”
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The plot thickens. Very interesting.
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giselle
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 15:51 |
leonalvarado wrote:
giselle wrote:
Phideaux wrote:
giselle wrote:
Well you'd best rustle up Bunker, Abrahams, and Cornick. THAT was Tull. The rest was/is Ian Anderson and friends. |
I feel the same way about The Beatles - anything after Pete Best was just Lennon/McCartney and guests.
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You're quite right; 2 + 2 does equal 22. |
I don't know that I agree with the Beatles reference. What did Peter Best ever done worth anything? The rest of the band might have treated him poorly but musically the band was better for it. |
I rest my case.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 14:00 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Aw, I thought they were going to cover that Fleetwood Mac album.
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Tusk?
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Sanmartinphase7
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 13:54 |
As a matter of fact I just came upon this:
In Ian's words: “Yeah, that record is the subject of discussions with EMI at the moment because we’re doing some remixing and remastering in 5.1 Sound, a kind of collector’s edition which we’ll release this year to celebrate the anniversary of Aqualung,” Anderson explains. “And then next year is the 40th anniversary of Thick As A Brick, so we’re already looking at the 2012 calendar and beginning to put together tours to regenerate theThick As A Brick material in live performance for the first time since 1972, in its entirety.”
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Sanmartinphase7
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 10:17 |
This is just pure guessing but what if the "very famous prog album from the 70's" Steven Wilson is mixing in surround sound is Aqualung? It would fit the Jethro news about something happening in 125 days, and it would make sense to release a deluxe edition of Aqualung in its 40th anniversary (a tour would be nice too, and 'd be even happier if the albums turns out to be TAB, but in 125 days, if my math doesn't fail me, it will still be 2011, and TAB would turn 40 in 2012)
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 10:08 |
I was just thinking the other day, that none of the Big Six have released a new album since before 2004.
And now two are coming along at once? No chance of there being a 3rd or 4th, at all, is there?
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rotten hound of the burnie crew
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leonalvarado
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 17:08 |
giselle wrote:
Phideaux wrote:
giselle wrote:
Well you'd best rustle up Bunker, Abrahams, and Cornick. THAT was Tull. The rest was/is Ian Anderson and friends. |
I feel the same way about The Beatles - anything after Pete Best was just Lennon/McCartney and guests.
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You're quite right; 2 + 2 does equal 22. |
I don't know that I agree with the Beatles reference. What did Peter Best ever done worth anything? The rest of the band might have treated him poorly but musically the band was better for it.
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giselle
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 16:42 |
Phideaux wrote:
giselle wrote:
Well you'd best rustle up Bunker, Abrahams, and Cornick. THAT was Tull. The rest was/is Ian Anderson and friends. |
I feel the same way about The Beatles - anything after Pete Best was just Lennon/McCartney and guests.
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You're quite right; 2 + 2 does equal 22.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 14:45 |
Atavachron wrote:
Isn't everyone?
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Even my dogs are. And they love haggis and they wear kilts.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - May 03 2011 at 14:46
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Phideaux
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 14:28 |
giselle wrote:
Well you'd best rustle up Bunker, Abrahams, and Cornick. THAT was Tull. The rest was/is Ian Anderson and friends. |
I feel the same way about The Beatles - anything after Pete Best was just Lennon/McCartney and guests.
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Posted: May 02 2011 at 07:09 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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