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Atavachron
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 05:41 | |
Really? Nothing slight about it under the circumstances, seems to me.
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CPicard
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 05:35 | |
^I would rather say that the Army doesn't support Moubarak and his regime. It's a slight nuance.
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 03:49 | |
Looks like the army was firmly with the Egyptian people today, protecting them from the Mubara-thugs. Right on !
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 04 2011 at 12:08 | |
RoyFairbank
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Posted: February 04 2011 at 08:15 | |
The Muslim brotherhood has no power in the streets. It is being given support by the government, however, which sees it as a tool to both "placate" the desire for an alternative government and also to be a reliable partner to the military.
Parallels between Iran 30 years ago and Egypt today are ludicrous. You have to realize these are different religions, Sunni and Shiite, to begin with (as well as different races/populations, Arab vs. Persian). It has been a secular movement from the beginning, both in Tunisia and Egypt. Really this is an Israeli/Western propaganda to discourage protests, the people expressly want democracy. |
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 04 2011 at 06:42 | |
^^ I think you're right actually.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 04 2011 at 06:23 | |
I think I remember the Shah of Iran was a US favourite and the dismissal of his regime was a major blow to the West, who lost the right to exploit Iran's oil. I'll wiki it a bit and come back.
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 04 2011 at 06:00 | |
Wasn't the ousting of the Shah of Iran, a US sponsored project?? The Muslim Brotherhood is actually an outlawed party in Egypt, that doesn't have any actual real power. Of course this may change if it is the will of the people, but I think the people of Egypt would favour a secular regime. I'm sure Israel would prefer a secular regime there too. At least Mubarak held the peace between the two countries for 30 years.
The situation is so complicated, and I expect there's more to it than meets the eye, but will just have to see how this pans out, across the whole region. |
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ProgressiveAttic
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 20:56 | |
The worrying part about the Egyptian riots is the enormous power the "Muslim Brotherhood" is earning... and it is a group with known ties to terrorist groups... Hopefully Egypt wont become another Iran...
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 20:44 | |
Egyptians must take the initiative today and bring the fight to the government. They can't make due with another U.S./Military stooge government. Mubarak is only an individual and the system as a whole is rotten and is what is ultimately creating this crisis with these paid hooligans attacking the peaceful demonstration. There's a lot of people in the high command, among the wealthy and in the extended government who are working against the democratic aspirations of the people - certainly, Mubarak is not alone as a dictator but merely the public face of the dictatorship. His friends in Washington are not allies of the people either, no matter their pragmatic blathering.
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Icarium
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:50 | |
I dunno, but yes riots can happen everywhere that depends what is fought for, (and what are you acusing me for if I were serious ), but i think it is true that on hot days in Oslo their tends to be more fights, beocuse people gets easyer irritated when the day teprature is 32 degree celcius or more, and a hot sun over your head, after a long day at work, and stressfull day, driveing in the traffic and such will make some people to boil over.
this is the most violent demonstration in post-second world war times in Oslo
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CPicard
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:16 | |
aginor, I really hope you are joking.
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Icarium
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:13 | |
I guess it is easyer to be overheated in Sahara (espessially when your country is positioned there) much sun can make people go crazy and do crazy stuff, in the arctic era like Canada and Norway it is mostly verry cold or wet so people rearly walk outside, people tends to hold on their frustraition longer and tend to use it on bar fights and (cold blooded murder)
Edited by aginor - February 03 2011 at 15:13 |
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CPicard
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:09 | |
Yeah, the Quebec uprising, quickly joined by the raving Acadians of Louisiana, will be a feast of gore. |
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:06 | |
So much stability! And yeah, appears the Egyptian people are not so on board with "we need stability until the election when I will not run again" Big surprise... Well hopefully something good comes of all this. Remember all those "Color Revolutions"? I'm thinking specifically of Ukraine and Georgia which turned out to be pretty big failures.... |
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 14:26 | |
I live in Canada.... enough said?
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 13:26 | |
Yeah, I think stories like these give hope..
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 12:39 | |
Both facts are wonderful Edited by Moogtron III - February 03 2011 at 12:40 |
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 11:04 | |
Yes, I think that is quite inspiring, and it worked the other way round too, just before Christmas.. Muslims protect Christians |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 10:05 | |
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