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Dean
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 02:24 |
dianneazuma54 wrote:
What are clouds made off and how do clouds seem to maintain a certain shape in the sky? |
Clouds are made of Spam.
You can go now.
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dianneazuma54
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 00:05 |
What are clouds made off and how do clouds seem to maintain a certain shape in the sky?
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FunkyHomoSapien
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Posted: September 29 2012 at 05:10 |
Dean wrote:
giselle wrote:
FunkyHomoSapien wrote:
They weren't huge because they weren't popular - simple as that. |
That's not entirely fair - bad management played a part, and bad luck too. Read the story! |
That's the nature of the business (of any business) - take Kaleidoscope (UK) for example - prominent in the UK pop-pscyhe scene in the late 60s, played (and composed the theme song) for the Isle of Wight Festival and were in the process of producing their Prog rock opus when it all went spectacularily wrong and the album get shelved for 20 years, or The Enid who had a massive cult following in the UK and played two Reading festivals just as Punk Rock exploded across the broadsheet rock press, sending them spiralling into obscurity. It happens, all we can do is support them now and sing their praises to any who would listen, there is little to be gained from regretting the failures of the past or dwelling upon them. |
Deano got it right
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DiamondDog
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Posted: April 05 2012 at 05:13 |
This is true, a good point. I liked Kaleidoscope.
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Dean
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Posted: March 30 2012 at 06:59 |
giselle wrote:
FunkyHomoSapien wrote:
They weren't huge because they weren't popular - simple as that. |
That's not entirely fair - bad management played a part, and bad luck too. Read the story! |
That's the nature of the business (of any business) - take Kaleidoscope (UK) for example - prominent in the UK pop-pscyhe scene in the late 60s, played (and composed the theme song) for the Isle of Wight Festival and were in the process of producing their Prog rock opus when it all went spectacularily wrong and the album get shelved for 20 years, or The Enid who had a massive cult following in the UK and played two Reading festivals just as Punk Rock exploded across the broadsheet rock press, sending them spiralling into obscurity. It happens, all we can do is support them now and sing their praises to any who would listen, there is little to be gained from regretting the failures of the past or dwelling upon them.
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giselle
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Posted: March 30 2012 at 05:01 |
FunkyHomoSapien wrote:
They weren't huge because they weren't popular - simple as that. |
That's not entirely fair - bad management played a part, and bad luck too. Read the story!
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FunkyHomoSapien
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Posted: March 28 2012 at 09:28 |
They weren't huge because they weren't popular - simple as that.
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Posted: March 11 2012 at 12:38 |
Yes, it asks the question "why wasn't this band huge"? Probably because Prog Archives didn't exist at the time.
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Dean
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Posted: March 09 2012 at 12:11 |
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NickHall
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Posted: March 09 2012 at 05:54 |
just read an amazing review of new clouds cd on allmusic guide.
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Posted: February 18 2012 at 05:25 |
I have been visiting the clouds more that 2 years its a musical sites and this is nice to get tips and more.
Really i love to hear about them...
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JeanFrame
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Posted: February 15 2012 at 09:53 |
Might be worth writing to the Clouds website?
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 03:53 |
I read somewhere that there were pieces of other songs on the tape; even to hear those pieces would be interesting.
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Dean
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 12:12 |
The rest of that live set might be out there somewhere, it does seem unfortunate that only one track survives.
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resurrection
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 09:21 |
Yes as far as known. More 123 recordings are badly needed.
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FunkyHomoSapien
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Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:33 |
Is that live recording at the Marquee the only 123 track?
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JeanFrame
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 09:44 |
I said it already - lack of recorded material is a problem.
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giselle
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Posted: October 09 2011 at 18:24 |
er....well....no....caught me out a bit...I dont know that Larkin or Hogg were actually there, I read that into what they wrote, though it seems to say the opposite to you! Larkin's original account seems factual, not inherited (though I cant, as you say, be sure). Hogg's account (pge 67) definitely doesn't seem anecdotal, too much detail etc. Also testimony from the actual time, ie, Marquee programs, Bowie's letter etc. There are also people who were there, myself included, but as a mere punter (and admirer), I dont suppose my testimony counts for much. Trouble was, at the time we didn't know we were listening to the future, we only knew it was different. Have you read member Malreaux's interesting testimony? He really should post more (and not just on this subject).
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Dean
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Posted: October 09 2011 at 17:40 |
Gah, stop it ... just when I was beginning to get comfortable with this you throw a spaniel in the works.... How do you know that Larkin saw the band in its heyday and that Hogg was obviously there? That's not the impression I get from reading the texts.
Edited by Dean - October 09 2011 at 17:40
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giselle
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Posted: October 09 2011 at 17:12 |
Oh yes, I remember now, Colin Larkin was the original editor, I only remembered it as Muze publications. As I said, the critique was rewritten quite recently, certainly in the last few years, and Larkin certainly saw the band in its heyday. Mojo magazine coined the bit about "1-2-3 and the Birth of Prog", though I think all of us accept that birth was nowhere as simple as that. Then again, Brian Hogg's testimony in particular is definitely not anecdotal, he was obviously there and witnessed it happen. Nevertheless, much of what you said is true. I think the point you make about the time lapse and the lack of witness testimony may help to explain the relative mainstream disinterest in many influential bands of that era who didn't have major sales or success.
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