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Poll Question: Which song from these do you consider as the most Prog song and why?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
4 [0.68%]
10 [1.71%]
37 [6.32%]
1 [0.17%]
7 [1.20%]
0 [0.00%]
4 [0.68%]
20 [3.42%]
5 [0.85%]
7 [1.20%]
158 [27.01%]
4 [0.68%]
1 [0.17%]
6 [1.03%]
3 [0.51%]
9 [1.54%]
8 [1.37%]
112 [19.15%]
1 [0.17%]
175 [29.91%]
1 [0.17%]
12 [2.05%]
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From those listed, my picks are Child In Time, Stargazer and The End. I'd pick other songs from Zeppelin and The Who, though. 
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Snow Dog is right. They are very much prog in the way that Queen was in the early- to mid-seventies(" Action") and very much prog in the way that ELO and City Boy were in the late 70's(listen to "Tell the Truth"from 1980,a terrific song). Yes,they were glam,but they were also MORE. Slade,THAT was just a glam band,playing brainless rock n'roll tunes. But Sweet? Nah
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Stargazer now has 109 votes. WTF?
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OK kids can we play nice.

Can we also stop hitting the Report Button. There are other threads and topics to play in....
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Merry Christmas Snow Dog Wink

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 He doesn't mean this. He sent me a rather nasty PM just now. 


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1.Child In Time
2.Bohemian Rhapsody 
3.Nights In White Satin
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Merry Christmas Snow Dog Wink

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Against my better judgement.....Sleepy

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.  Maybe they were for a period in time.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were. Up to you...do you think i give a sh*t? hey you may have learnt something but never mind.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period) Never claimed they weren't...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you. I don't know who wrote their website for sure. But if you want tp Pigeonhole them as a glam band thats up to......oh whatever.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit  No...really no. I just hate your arguments. They go on for ever. You trawl the internet for evidernce. Life itself becomes no fun. The very thread you inhabit becomes a place to avoid. It just ain't worth it. 

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It's so nice to have these band's straight-up called non-prog, not ifs or buts about it. :)

Child in Time or Stargazer.
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Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period)...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

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Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.

Sweet not Glam?

THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OFFICIAL SWEET SITE RECOGNIZES THEM AS A GLAM BAND, AND NOT JUST AS ANY GLAM BAND, BUT AS THE EPITOME OF GLAM

Quote The Sweet epitomised the UK 70's Glam Rock movement with their trademark glitter and Glam makeup


For God's sake, if you don't accept that The Sweet were a Glam band, you are the one who doesn't know them (I grew with songs like Ballroom Blitz), even they describe themselves as Glam, or do you pretend to know more about them than themselves?

Yes they made a couple of good rock tracks, but even their appearence is of a Glam band



 

And no, I don't believe that "Love is like Oxygen" is Prog,. a great rock song but not Prog

So please, before calling other person's opinions ridiculous or accusing them of not knowing what they say, verify what the band believes of themselves.

Iván
 

The majority of their material is not Glam Rock. Most of their "Glam" stuff was written by Chinn/Chapman...basically the A sides of their major hit singles if the early seventies. Most of the self penned material is not. 

I have always been a fan of the band and have every album.

Of course the photos YOU choose are from their Glam period...where a ,lot of bands dressed up like this. I could show pictures of a naked woman and say " This woman is always naked".  David Bowie just a Glam act also?

I'm not getting into an extensive discusssion with you...frankly it is boring. You crave the last word too much.



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Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

 
I really don´t know any reason why some Glam Rock (or Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, Pop, etc...) artist wouldn´t record sometimes a kind of Prog Rock album or song.
Example: Elton John, Kiss, Sweet...
 
I believe that "Love Is Like Oxygen" is very related to Prog. But the final decision is on you all.

Of  course some Pop, Rock, etc can be Prog (Even Salsa), like:

  • She's a Rainbow: Rolling Stones
  • I Don' Like Mondays: Bob Geldof and The Boomtown Rats
  • Buscando América: Ruben Blades (Latin Fusion by a Salsa Artist)
  • I'd Do Anything for Love: Meat Loaf
But I don't believe "I Don't Like Mondays" (A song  love, only bought the LP for that track) is Prog Related, being that The Sweet are from the 70's and always managed to keep a safe distance from Prog.

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The Who - Love Reign O'er Me
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Later albums of Sweet(like waterworks) are pure prog-pop in the line of ELO.  "Love is like oxygen",however simple it is, is a work of pure crossover prog. Brilliant!
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.

Sweet not Glam?

THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OFFICIAL SWEET SITE RECOGNIZES THEM AS A GLAM BAND, AND NOT JUST AS ANY GLAM BAND, BUT AS THE EPITOME OF GLAM

Quote The Sweet epitomised the UK 70's Glam Rock movement with their trademark glitter and Glam makeup


For God's sake, if you don't accept that The Sweet were a Glam band, you are the one who doesn't know them (I grew with songs like Ballroom Blitz), even they describe themselves as Glam, or do you pretend to know more about them than themselves?

Yes they made a couple of good rock tracks, but even their appearence is of a Glam band

 

 

And no, I don't believe that "Love is like Oxygen" is Prog,. a great rock song but not Prog

So please, before calling other person's opinions ridiculous or accusing them of not knowing what they say, verify what the band believes of themselves.

Iván
 
I really don´t know any reason why some Glam Rock (or Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, Pop, etc...) artist wouldn´t record sometimes a kind of Prog Rock album or song.
Example: Elton John, Kiss, Sweet...
 
I believe that "Love Is Like Oxygen" is very related to Prog. But the final decision is on you all.


Edited by Gandalff - December 26 2010 at 03:52
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10cc - "Une Nuit a Paris"
 
10cc were much more of a Pop group with Art Rock influences, best known for their hits "I'm Not in Love" and "The Things We Do For Love"
 
Yet, "Une Nuit a Paris" is a three part suite that clocks in at 9 minutes, which has many key and tempo changes, as well as an unpredictable song structure (save for the Chorus).
 

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I know less than half of these songs, but most of those I do know I like a lot.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.

Sweet not Glam?

THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OFFICIAL SWEET SITE RECOGNIZES THEM AS A GLAM BAND, AND NOT JUST AS ANY GLAM BAND, BUT AS THE EPITOME OF GLAM

Quote The Sweet epitomised the UK 70's Glam Rock movement with their trademark glitter and Glam makeup


For God's sake, if you don't accept that The Sweet were a Glam band, you are the one who doesn't know them (I grew with songs like Ballroom Blitz), even they describe themselves as Glam, or do you pretend to know more about them than themselves?

Yes they made a couple of good rock tracks, but even their appearence is of a Glam band



 

And no, I don't believe that "Love is like Oxygen" is Prog,. a great rock song but not Prog

So please, before calling other person's opinions ridiculous or accusing them of not knowing what they say, verify what the band believes of themselves.

Iván


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