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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 20 2012 at 03:19 |
Zombywoof wrote:
Too poppy for my tastes. |
In the sense that sugar might be considered too sweet for someone's taste? Or that BB King might be considered too bluesy for someone's taste? Or that Count Basie might be considered too jazzy for someone's taste?
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Cthulhu42
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 22:59 |
As much as I like the Beatles (they were my favourite band when I was a kid) I'm going to have to go with Floyd for this one.
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Ancient Tree
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 16:18 |
pink floyds are awesome,beatles not so much. just look at pink floyd concerts also floyds have better lyrics
Edited by Ancient Tree - June 19 2012 at 16:19
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Zombywoof
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 11:58 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Of course, that was meant as a joke. |
Edited by Zombywoof - December 05 2012 at 22:10
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 11:50 |
^ Of course, that was meant as a joke.
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Zombywoof
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 11:31 |
mister nobody wrote:
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?My vote would go to the obvious. |
Edited by Zombywoof - December 05 2012 at 22:08
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wellsfargo
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 09:45 |
As I remember that the Beatles were more innovative.
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wellsfargo
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 09:39 |
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NYSPORTSFAN
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 08:15 |
mister nobody wrote:
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious. |
Has Pink Floyd ever composed a song as many time signatures as "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" or a melody as compared to "Yesterday" or as innovative as "Tomorrow Never Knows"? The Beatles were great pop/rock songwriters and many bands would take one aspect in what the Beatles were doing and went with it. There are many examples of this for example Chicago basically got idea of their sound in listening to songs like "Got To Get You Into My Life" and "Good Morning Good Morning". Groups like Can, The Byrds, ELO and King Crimson formed after hearing Beatles songs. Brian Wilson musically and lyrically went into a different direction after hearing Rubber Soul. As for Pink Floyd it's known fact that Syd Barrett spent the whole summer of 1966 listening to Revolver and took in many of the ideas on Revolver. Now that doesn't make the Beatles better than any of those bands but you can make the argument the Beatles never really stayed with one particular style. I would say the Beatles were easily the greatest band in the rock genre in incorporating outside rock elements with strong cleverly written pop songs. It's a style that many bands have tried but most have struggled with and the Beatles seemed to have thrived with this. There are so many examples like "Strawberry Fields Forever", "A Day in the Life", "Eleanor Rigby", "Norwegian Wood", "I Am the Walrus" and the list goes on. If you could pinpoint THE most innovative pop song ever written, "Tomorrow Never Knows" would would on the short list, if not the winner. Not only is the sound/feel way ahead of its time, but the recording techniques completely revolutionized recording. The one-chord structure, using tape loops, putting John's voice through a Leslie speaker, the way the drums are recorded, these were all innovations created during the recording of this song. Love it or hate it, this invented modern rock.
Edited by NYSPORTSFAN - June 19 2012 at 08:23
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 22:54 |
The T wrote:
I think Pink Floyd is objectively better than The Beatles according to my own objective evaluation. |
This thread should be closed now
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The T
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 13:56 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Well thats settled it then. |
Not only does my objective evaluation point in that direction, but also the objective votes in this poll. Somebody already mentioned Billboard's and Rolling Stone's results, so I guess we can use PA's too
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 12:12 |
wellsfargo wrote:
I think you have that one backwards. |
What I got backwards?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 11:46 |
Well thats settled it then.
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The T
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 11:26 |
I think Pink Floyd is objectively better than The Beatles according to my own objective evaluation.
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Earthmover
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 10:11 |
rogerthat wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no? |
Didn't say he cannot be. But is it a fact, as you seem to be stating, that one band is better than the other? If so, based on what evidence do you propose to prove it?
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I do not state that Pink Floyd is objectively better band than Beatles (although it seems like I am). I merely state that influence does not equal quality. Their influence does not mean they are musically better. We have to look into other things (mainly compositions) to really compare these two bands. Although, in the end, it all comes down to personal preference, and my is that Pink Floyd is the better of these two. I was little too fast to say some things, I admit, but my vote would still stand (if I had right to vote )
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wellsfargo
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 10:02 |
I think you have that one backwards.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 09:24 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
These discussions are silly:
A likes X more than Y B likes Y more than X A therefore does not like B B therefore does not like A
Calculate who is right to two decimal places.
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Might wanna be clearer on this one. I don't see any mutual dislikes so far.
mister nobody wrote:
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no? |
That's not clear either. The only hint you get is "Discuss" ... which does not sound like a question.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 17 2012 at 09:27
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 08:06 |
mister nobody wrote:
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no? |
Didn't say he cannot be. But is it a fact, as you seem to be stating, that one band is better than the other? If so, based on what evidence do you propose to prove it?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 07:13 |
These discussions are silly:
A likes X more than Y B likes Y more than X A therefore does not like B B therefore does not like A
Calculate who is right to two decimal places.
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Earthmover
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 06:57 |
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no?
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