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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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This. The reason we've seen a resurgence of prog in the last 10 years (and don't give me any of that "prog never died" crap - it was at the very least extremely marginalised, undervalued and widely-ridiculed through much of the 80's and 90's) is largely down to the internet. The effortless sharing of content (legal or otherwise) coupled with the opportunities to seek out and communicate with like-minded individuals breathed new life into prog. Obviously the internet isn't the only factor, and Anglagard certainly were amongst the first of the new breed to really show that there was still an appetite for new prog (they played that careful balancing act of 70s nostalgia and modern sensibilities to perfection) but ultimately the second coming of prog is down to a lot more than the contribution of any singular group or artist. |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29285 |
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As for 80's music there was some great artists like Kate Bush and they didn't suddenly drop dead on the 1st January 1990.There was never some arbitary cut off.
btw to rubbish my comments and the come up with nonsense is quite hilarious:
The 1980s were the last decade that offered modernist innovation, for it was a time where faith in the promise of technological achievement allowed new sounds to develop thanks to the digital revolution
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awaken77 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
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Anglagard had beautiful "retro-modern" sound. Yes, they use real Hammonds and mellotrons (not a synthesized samples), but their sound was modernly-agressive . Nobody in 70thies (including Yes, Genesis) played like this. And that's good for Anglagard - bring some modern feel into music, even use retro-instruments and technologies
Also, there is an interesting fact that Swedish prog-rock have something very subtle in common - Anglagard, Anekdoten, PLP, Sinkadus (and even Samla - which is in it's very separate category). I don't know where this "Swedish-born melodism" coming from, but I feel it in the music of all above mentioned bands . Maybe it's a subtle influence of Swedish folk music ? |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Anglagard is pure Symphonic, doesn't have that 80's sound of Neo or the mixture of elements from New Wave, New Age, AOR, etc, as a fact, Anglagard was so Symphonic that they refused to use any instrument not availlable in 1974. Neo Prog tends to be less elaborate than Symphonic and Anglagard is much more elaborate than most Symphonic bands
Are you sure? Anglagard has one album in the top 15, above albums as Fragile or Larks Tongues in Aspic. There are 49 threads about Anglagard, 17 about Hybris , 6 about Epilog and 1 about Buried Alive; this means at least 73 threads about Anglagard...Very few bands achieve this. So don't tell me they are not well known, few people here don't know Anglagard, despite they only released 2 studio albums. Iván
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The Neck Romancer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2010 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 10185 |
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Anglagard isn't even that much of a well known band in PA.
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Prog went back underground but not a s a dead body of music. Anglagard are definitely neo.prog to my ear, but too obscure to be responsible especially with a limited body of recordings for a 'rebirth' or perhaps more realistically, reappearance of prog above ground. You have to look towards the persistence of bands like IQ against the odds put against the genre, e.g. the heckling by the mainstream music press and radio in the UK. Or transplantation of UK bands to the USA (and Japan) where there was relatively greater tolerance and indeed money to keep going. OR the appearance of the Scandanavian prog scene evolving out of the likes of Anglagrad.. Not simple at all.
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Never died, but was agonizing. The original bands changed their sound to some sort of POP with Proggy leanings, Neo Prog was never able to recapture the strength and originality of the pioneers and lets be honest, nobody dared (with a few exceptions) to release material as strong and radical as the one of the early 70's. But then came the Swedish Art Rock Society (1991), and impulsed bands Like Anglagard, Par Lindh Project, Anekdoten, etc, who took the risk to release material even more elaborate than the one of the 70's with success............So yes, it was a rebirth of the genre in it's original form, even when Progressive Rock never fully died before.. Iván
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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caretaker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 19 2010 Location: united states Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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To answer the question I would say no. But I do like Anglagard. Prog is an era unto itself like the different periods of classical music. It never died so it doesn't need to be reborn.
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June ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2008 Location: Montreal Status: Offline Points: 6521 |
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Prog died?
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Our hero strikes again!
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Any Colour You Like ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
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Sick'em Walt.
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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That atrocious narrative deserves to be shot in the back of the head with a Colt 45. Its absolute rubbish. The 1980s were the last decade that offered modernist innovation, for it was a time where faith in the promise of technological achievement allowed new sounds to develop thanks to the digital revolution. The 90s were the beginning of the end, a dark age when banal slackers recycled old ideas and sold them as new. Oasis and Nirvana and Anglagard? Give me a break. None of these idiots ever came up with an idea that wasn't already done (in a superior fashion) before 1989. They had no sense of fun or originality; dour derisive and derivative, their crimes against culture should be prosecuted by all nations. |
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manofmystery ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
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There was a rebirth?
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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The Swedish Art Rock Society was the reason......Anglagard was the symbol of the rebirth.
Iván
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 13974 |
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I think the influence would have been a lot bigger if the internet was a factor then. A huge album in my opinion.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 36955 |
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Anglagard was an important band in the 90's scene (sometimes called third wave). Sweden was important to that.
I'd cite the Swedish Art Rock Society, founded in '91, which sought to restore the traits of classic progressive rock, and had Par Lindh as chairman. That was important and played a part in the rise of a neo-classic Prog scene that got going in Sweden, and spread. Bands such as Par Lindh Project (Par Lindh being chairman), Anekdoten, and Anglagard were spring-boarded, to quite an extent, due to the foundation of the Swedish Art Rock Society's values which was concerned with bringing back qualities/ spirit of classic progressive rock, and set out to do so, but progressive rock never ceased to exist. I guess they helped to popularise more retro prog in a way (or neo-classic prog revival). And then Sweden's The Flower Kings quickly followed, which is obviously retro. Par Lindh and the Swedish Art Rock Society were important to the third wave. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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nope
i dont see anglagard as being at all influential in the modern scene wich seems to not have gone in the symphonic direction at all... so no, not at all.
that being sayed i really enjoy anglagard
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ferush ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 363 |
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I don't think so, even though their first album is great.
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13780 |
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There was no need for it to be reborn, because it never died in the first place.
Having said that, Hybris is a stunning album. |
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