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Posted: May 22 2010 at 13:34
Easy Money wrote:
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Easy Money wrote:
If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is.
For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best).
Out of curiosity, where would fans of RIO stand?
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Frank Zappa - 125
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 13:34
Easy Money wrote:
A Person wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is. For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best).
Out of curiosity, where would fans of RIO stand?
Fred Frith - 155 Frank Zappa - 125 John Zorn - 118
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 13:32
A Person wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is.
For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best).
Out of curiosity, where would fans of RIO stand?
Fred Frith - 155
Shining (Norway) - 142
Frank Zappa - 125
John Zorn - 118
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 13:29
Easy Money wrote:
If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is.
For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best).
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 13:26
If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is.
For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best).
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 10:25
I love prog, but I don't consider myself an intellectual at all. I don't read much literature. And I'm more knowledgable in the field of video games and anime than I am with the work of Igmar Bergman.
I took an IQ test once and I know these things aren't accurate, but the results said I had an IQ of 124 which is above average but nothing special.
And my skills as a musician are really poor, so I can't join a prog band. I should find a way around that. Start a prog-punk band maybe? Call it prunk.
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 03:45
shockedjazz wrote:
So many intelectual display against inntelectualism is not very suspicious? As the ones who hates philosophy, are not they the philosophical tipe themselfs? I goes also for the so called Nietzsche "the Dick" that was one of the main reason why nowadays people still talks intelectualy of anti-intelectual views.
So bashing him ( as intelectual) appears to be a little bit childish.
The people today so relied in scientific views about enviroment and cultural influence....Dont you see the place of Nieztsche in your inherited intelectual antiintelctualism?
Arent you fighting with yourselves, dear intelectuals behind the mask?...in this case a neewspaper with two holes .
Wow. This is the first time in my life that the grammar nazi in me has been beaten down by the philosophy student in me.
Godspeed, You Bolero Enthusiasts
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 03:41
The T wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
I only have three things to add to this thread:
1. People who call themselves "intellectuals" are, almost exclusively, a bunch of w**kers.
2. The only thing IQ tests measure is how good you are at taking IQ tests, and anybody who's actually intelligent realizes that they are meaningless to the world outside of the MENSA meetings where they solve puzzle books.
3. I think that enjoying experimental music of any time depends largely on your willingness to be open to new things, as most people, unfortunately, find things that are unfamiliar to them unpleasant and disorienting. Everybody filters their current experiences through their past ones, but for some reason we have a constant desire for novelty that outweighs the naturally conservative effects of our brain. I would agree that some prog is more contemplative, but that's not a trait that's exclusive to it.
P.S. Neitzsche was a dick.
Nietzsche was a sex-deprived man who spent too much time thinking and little time actually living. I remember a few years ago I used to think things like him, I started to become somewhat of a little-Friedrich in my views of the world and of people and of relations and of power and everything.....until I finally found social company.... And all that sh*t went to hell
This is a very interesting take on Neitzsche. I would like to see more of your reasoning, gentlemen, as I would find it hard to see the author of The Birth of Tragedy as someone who spent too little time living. I regard that as one of the most joyful and celebratory books ever made. Regardless of what the nihilists and their ferrets say, Neitzsche loved life and celebrated the fact that we were not constrained by the idea of 'too much thinking'. This is, after all, one of the only websites where a 5000 word review of an album is met with fascination.
jammun wrote:
Why is it that we creep?
Godspeed, You Bolero Enthusiasts
'Prog is all about leaving home...' - Moshkito
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Posted: May 22 2010 at 00:09
Let's be realistic, us prog fans, we are time captives (er captains, er whatever he sez) we synthesize the wave power in your brain. Dunno, space plucks the planets of the universe. Plus I don't need to sh*t or piss. I'd say Arthur Brown has our backsides covered.
And as long as I'm in a Galactic mood:
Why is it that we creep?
Edited by jammun - May 22 2010 at 00:14
Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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