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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 16:09
1) Close To the Edge
2) The Yes Album
3) Fragile
4) Going For The One

Those are my all time favorite Yes albums. Yessongs would be in my top three too, but it is a live album without unissued songs on it so I guess it doesn´t count, right? I like everything Yes did, including Relayer and Tales From Topographic Oceans, but they are not as good as those in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:55
I like Relayer a lot. It has a sort of Mahavishnu twist to it. I could do without Cha Cha Cha though.

Drama remains my fave though. I thought it was the end until I went into seclusion and listened to it very nervously for the first time. Then I listened to it abou 4 more times in a row in disbelief Cool ! It's certainly one of the better covers Dean did for the band too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:33
..."Relayer" is my favourite, too.  Although, it took me a while to get used to the "Cha Cha" - section. Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:21
Relayer is a great, graet Yes moment, but not THE ultimate, to me.

I would say that CTTE, Tales and The Ladder long tracks are more 'Yes-as-usual'...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 01:58
It's interesting, because outside of this website, I always hear that The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge is their best era. The consensus seems to be that they lost their way with Tales.. and Relayer. The opposite seems to be the case here. You guys on this forum love those albums! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 22:30
The best from Yes I believe. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 22:28
I like CTTE, Relayer and Drama best.  Each captures a distinct sound, each was well produced and each one has that overall tone (like King Crimson's In the Court of the Crimson King) that transports me into another world like a great prog album should. 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 21:49
Oh, I do like a bit better the Sound Chaser version released on "The Word is Live", with vocals and some really beautiful moments that are not included on the original instrumental version. Alas, it's still got the Cha Cha Cha's (or as many Cha's as it's actually got).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 18:45
Yes, Relayer is one of the three major masterpieces consecutively released by YES.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 18:41
This is the first Yes album I ever bought. Got it in mint shape from a guy at school in '76 or so. Best 3 bucks I ever spent. Right from the start I kew I was in for something. It's still pretty much my favourite. I tend to regard this album and CTTE together. Both are very differant in their approach but still have a certain affinity towards eachother. Rather like two sides of the same coin. O.K. that's subjective on my part but regardless Relayer is a masterpiece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 17:52
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

... "The Gates of Delirium" is, in my opinion, Yes's greatest song and an example of the perfect epic.


This is true for me as well - few other epics keep me as interested throughout...it's one of few epics that dares to "go somewhere", and not simply repeat the theme from the beginning...In fact, it develops that way throughout, each part seems to take it to another place, never needing to revisit anything before it...If a newer prog band did something like this now, I'm sure many would consider it "new and fresh"!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 17:52
Yes. Relayer is their masterpiece. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 16:24
The Yes Album. Full of great tunes. Relayer is patchy. Has great moments and filler moments
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 15:48
Without going into the 'masterpiece' question (which, in my opinion, is mostly a matter of personal opinion, as it's very difficult to measure objectively), I will say that Relayer has always left me cold. I can recognize its greatness, but it does not move me as their 'trilogy' does - as I've made it abundantly clear in my review of the album. I would also go so far as to say that I prefer both Going for the One and Drama to it. Great music, stellar musicianship.... but ultimately cold. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 15:44
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Yes, it's a fact, Relayer is their best.
With or without Wakeman and Bruford, it's still it.


"A fact"...!Angry It's a matter of taste, it's not objective... Relayer is good, but if it was a fact everyone would agree with this affirmation. I don't think if you made a pool about this Relayer will never come in first or maybe in second position.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 15:28
"Relayer" is not THE Yes masterpiece.  That award would probably have to go to "The Yes Album" or "Close to the Edge."  However, it is still A Yes masterpiece.  "The Gates of Delirium" is, in my opinion, Yes's greatest song and an example of the perfect epic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 15:03
Moraz does not get enough respect. His work on that album indicates virtuosity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 12:46
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

^ I actually like the "hoooom" between the cha cha's.
 

You're absolutely right.  The cha cha's aren't complete without that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 12:34
I like the love of Moraz's style in this thread. He often does little flourishes that are excellent and add to the atmosphere of the song. As I've said I don't care for sound chaser, but there are little arpeggios in the verses that just make the song so much more enjoyable, sort of like the echoes bouncing off the tall stone towers on the album cover.

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