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Dean
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 12:50 |
^ and beer
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What?
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 12:36 |
Funny though to see these thread next to the Love Question Poll... seems like progfans are interested on an existential issues and self esteem... right...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 12:08 |
stonebeard wrote:
I should have never started actually.
You know what? At least right now, I do kind of hate myself.
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When you mix some narcissism (as you said) with philosophy, all you end up with is a constant useless analysis of yourself, your surroundings, and how they affect you. It becomes the philosophy of yourself. But if you have narcissist traits, and on top of that you have a mind avid for philosophical knowledge, most likely you'll end up being a universal mind... where the universe consists of several "I" systems...
The best thing to do is what you've done. Try to go out and reach the other world. When you recognize what bothers you, you're halfway there. In time, all your good things will actually start to matter. And you'll be philosophizing without suffering about it....
Anyway, about this thread... If one hates him/herself, there's only two things you can do about it: either you put an end to it by changing what you don't like, or you continue hating yourself until one day you'll put an end to it in another, rather more drastic way....
So, in a word, stop whining...
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Blacksword
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Location: England
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 07:51 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Jim Garten
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Joined: February 02 2004
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 07:16 |
Don't be self-critical Andy... that'd give me nothing to do
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Blacksword
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Location: England
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 07:06 |
I'm very self critical, and think there is a lot wrong with me, that I have no control over, but hate is a little strong..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Points: 28057
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 00:40 |
I should have never started actually.
You know what? At least right now, I do kind of hate myself.
Edited by stonebeard - January 14 2010 at 00:40
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 00:13 |
stonebeard wrote:
Finally posting here.
Hate? Probably not. I think I'm an OK person. "I" is the operating term here; I kind of wonder if other people think I'm messed up though. The past semester I tried to be extroverted and get along with people but things aren't going too well. There's a bunch of endless questions that go through my head... they usually begin with, "Why can't I....?" Bunches of problems. College sucks a bit now. Future's like a thick fog, and all I'm left to do is wonder why I don't have passion or a drive to be creative as some people I take meager inspiration from. I know I'm going to get stuck in a sh*tty unsatisfying job because I'm too much of an indifferent b*****d who has no self-esteem. Joy.
Oh and yeah I probably am narcissistic. I'm tired of feeling weird, confused, lost, lonely, dispassionate, useless, etc. So forgive me if I focus on myself and my interests a lot when I'm feeling so low all the time. Can't really help it. I'm also tired of putting myself out there and being agreeable when I find no kindred souls.
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You should never have stopped being a philosopher.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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KoS
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Joined: May 17 2005
Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 00:00 |
I Stonebeard. Platonic love, that is.
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: January 13 2010 at 23:47 |
Finally posting here.
Hate? Probably not. I think I'm an OK person. "I" is the operating term here; I kind of wonder if other people think I'm messed up though. The past semester I tried to be extroverted and get along with people but things aren't going too well. There's a bunch of endless questions that go through my head... they usually begin with, "Why can't I....?" Bunches of problems. College sucks a bit now. Future's like a thick fog, and all I'm left to do is wonder why I don't have passion or a drive to be creative as some people I take meager inspiration from. I know I'm going to get stuck in a sh*tty unsatisfying job because I'm too much of an indifferent b*****d who has no self-esteem. Joy.
Oh and yeah I probably am narcissistic. I'm tired of feeling weird, confused, lost, lonely, dispassionate, useless, etc. So forgive me if I focus on myself and my interests a lot when I'm feeling so low all the time. Can't really help it. I'm also tired of putting myself out there and being agreeable when I find no kindred souls.
Edited by stonebeard - January 13 2010 at 23:48
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synthguy
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Location: United States
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Posted: January 07 2010 at 12:36 |
No...
I don't hate myself. I'm not to happy with some of the choices I've made.
But I don't hate myself.
I'm tempted to try and say something clever, but I'm not that deep.
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Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest...
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jampa17
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Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: January 07 2010 at 08:06 |
Well, everybody call me a Egomaniatic, so, how can I hate myself...??? no, even in the bad days -as today- I love me a lot, and I'm thinking to worship myself, maybe I can make a new Religion... like the JAMpaeisth...
Nah... bad joke but then... just like Salad Fingers just said, I am amazing...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The Pessimist
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Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 19:25 |
No I don't hate myself. Because I am amazing.
Although there is also the fact that it doesn't make sense to hate anything.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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Citizen Erased
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Joined: April 25 2009
Location: Scotland
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Points: 192
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 17:06 |
Dean wrote:
Everything between hate and love is mediocrity and indifference.
I still haven't come to terms with the idea that somewhere in the world there is someone who doesn't like me, so I haven't the inclination to worry about whether I like me or not.
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"You'd worry less what others thought of you when you realize how seldom they do." Oscar Wilde. I love that quote.
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And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good
<a href="www.last.fm/user/jonzo67" targe
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Citizen Erased
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Joined: April 25 2009
Location: Scotland
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 17:04 |
The Truth wrote:
I'm not going to turn this into a religous thread but I think that God exists and has a plan for each of our lives, (No matter how sucky you've made yours) |
This. God helps me a lot, despite how much crap I get on with in my life. I don't hate myself, but I have definite paranoia sometimes.
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And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good
<a href="www.last.fm/user/jonzo67" targe
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Vompatti
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Joined: October 22 2005
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 16:59 |
I've never even met myself.
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Xanthous
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Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 207
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 16:56 |
micky wrote:
do I hate myself?
jesus christ..... what has happened to people today.. what might possess one to hate yourself. Be proud of yourself.. .we all unique and special in our own ways. Celebrate that.. and care less about what others think...
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I don't agree with this. There are way too many, "filler" type people that make no contribution to anything for this assumption to be true.
Anyway, I don't hate myself. I'm in full control of my functions and do things the way I want to do them. Sometimes I hate some of the things I do, but I don't hate myself.
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jammun
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Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3449
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Posted: January 02 2010 at 22:50 |
I only hate myself on Mondays, and even then it's not just me, but the largest portion of the bricks tends to fall that way,
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11415
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Posted: January 02 2010 at 22:48 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Attempting to disentangle the irony from some of Henry's posts sometimes leaves very little thread remaining. Mr P is clearly neither emo or lame (but an old head on very young shoulders that he needs to learn to shrug occasionally)
Again, I'm guessing here but I suspect that the post is designed to reveal any narcissistic element in the replies i.e. would what is perceived as an inter generational cliche (those bloody Y genners, young people these days pah ! etc) have its source revealed if old farts like myself conceded we have a vestige of self-loathing in our makeup that makes such remarks possible ?
Or, his skin's broken out again...
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Hahaha, this is the beautiful thing about having a persona. Everybody gets so wrapped up in it they think you're much cleverer than you actually are. ;-) No, this poll was actually sincere (well, as sincere as I can be) and an attempt to reach out to other lost souls wandering in the darkness of the internet.
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OK, apologies for undermining your sincerity but you create the persona by what you choose to reveal about yourself in your posts. (and no-one blames the composer when a pianist hits a 'bum' note) BTW you flatter yourself (the buds of self-love/recovery ?)I think a little bit of self-loathing never did anyone any harm (We Scots are praying they make it an Olympic event) as long as its kept within bounds where an individual still continues to function and interact with others blah yakkity ditto etc. You are clearly eloquent, intelligent and funny but suffer from a surfeit of that post-modern malaise that Sartre (a wise old speccy French critter) neatly expressed thus: - Like all dreamers, I mistook disenchantment for truth -
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
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Points: 16715
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Posted: January 02 2010 at 22:14 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Attempting to disentangle the irony from some of Henry's posts sometimes leaves very little thread remaining. Mr P is clearly neither emo or lame (but an old head on very young shoulders that he needs to learn to shrug occasionally)
Again, I'm guessing here but I suspect that the post is designed to reveal any narcissistic element in the replies i.e. would what is perceived as an inter generational cliche (those bloody Y genners, young people these days pah ! etc) have its source revealed if old farts like myself conceded we have a vestige of self-loathing in our makeup that makes such remarks possible ?
Or, his skin's broken out again...
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Hahaha, this is the beautiful thing about having a persona. Everybody gets so wrapped up in it they think you're much cleverer than you actually are. ;-) No, this poll was actually sincere (well, as sincere as I can be) and an attempt to reach out to other lost souls wandering in the darkness of the internet.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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