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clarke2001
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 08:08 |
True. But a degree of liberty+ignorance that some "sound engineers" are applying deserves corporal punishment.
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Dean
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 07:57 |
^ mainly because the acoustics change when the venue is full from what it was during the sound check - a bad sound engineer will compensate for that on levels rather than EQ.
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clarke2001
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 07:45 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
For the end of year 12, me and some dudes in the year level were asked to play a thing for the end of the school year, in front of all the year 10s, year 11s, year 12 and all the school staff at our campus. I can't remember who came up with the idea (most likely our drummer), but yeah, we ended up playing a bunch of classic rock and metal stuff (so parts of We Will Rock You by Queen, so parts of Iron man by Black Sabbath TNT by AC/DC and of course the totally unexpected Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple)
Firstly, there was zero stage monitoring, so I could barely make out the vocals, couldn't hear the bassist nor the other 2 guitarists at all and basically could only hear myself and the drummer. It's amazing we were even able to be in the same sections of the songs in that circumstance.
Secondly, or some reason by the time we got near the end of the peformance, at the TNT part which was the last song of the medley, I got extremely nervous and anxious, RIGHT BEFORE THE GUITAR SOLO and it continued into the solo (given I have been getting severe anxiety problems that year, that sort of thing seemed to strike at any random time). Pretty much every note was being bent out of tune and my vibrato was horrible (picture Kirk Hammett trying to play AC/DC leads and you're on the money......or the guitarists from Dragonforce, either one or the 2 is okay) because I was so nervy that I wasn't able to totally control what I was doing at all. The musicians in the crowd (which wasn't many luckily) must have been cringing during that solo.
And then weirdly enough, we straight after played an instrumental version of BB King's rendition of The Thrill is Gone (although we even then had our own arrangement of the piece) and my playing was perfectly fine and totally in tune and controlled during the guitar solos
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Playing live without stage monitoring is awful most of the time. Nothing to hear but the muffled hum.. However, sometimes gigs can turn out surprisingly good - or at least interesting. On a sidenote, why is such a rocket science to make a decent sound on stage??? I don't mean perfect, I mean decent. In our garage, on rehearsals, we simply crank up the knobs to a reasonable level and we're all set.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 05:12 |
For the end of year 12, me and some dudes in the year level were asked to play a thing for the end of the school year, in front of all the year 10s, year 11s, year 12 and all the school staff at our campus. I can't remember who came up with the idea (most likely our drummer), but yeah, we ended up playing a bunch of classic rock and metal stuff (so parts of We Will Rock You by Queen, so parts of Iron man by Black Sabbath TNT by AC/DC and of course the totally unexpected Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple) Firstly, there was zero stage monitoring, so I could barely make out the vocals, couldn't hear the bassist nor the other 2 guitarists at all and basically could only hear myself and the drummer. It's amazing we were even able to be in the same sections of the songs in that circumstance. Secondly, or some reason by the time we got near the end of the peformance, at the TNT part which was the last song of the medley, I got extremely nervous and anxious, RIGHT BEFORE THE GUITAR SOLO and it continued into the solo (given I have been getting severe anxiety problems that year, that sort of thing seemed to strike at any random time). Pretty much every note was being bent out of tune and my vibrato was horrible (picture Kirk Hammett trying to play AC/DC leads and you're on the money......or the guitarists from Dragonforce, either one or the 2 is okay ) because I was so nervy that I wasn't able to totally control what I was doing at all. The musicians in the crowd (which wasn't many luckily) must have been cringing during that solo. And then weirdly enough, we straight after played an instrumental version of BB King's rendition of The Thrill is Gone (although we even then had our own arrangement of the piece) and my playing was perfectly fine and totally in tune and controlled during the guitar solos
Edited by Petrovsk Mizinski - October 20 2009 at 05:12
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mystic fred
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 03:06 |
not the worst band or gig but this must be the unluckiest -
the band were supporting Hawkwind on one of their Christmas bashes at the London Astoria, two (or three) people appeared on stage and announced one of their members was rushed to Hospital that morning but they would carry on without him, then they proceeded to play but the guitar amp broke down.....so they carried on but then the girl singer's mike broke down....the "performance" ended in a shambles, but i really felt sorry for them
Edited by mystic fred - October 20 2009 at 03:10
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mrcozdude
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 19:47 |
Dean wrote:
^ I'm sure you mean Peter
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That's what I said look ^^^
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Epignosis
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 11:48 |
I had a short stint with a pop / country band here in Florida.
The last show I played with them was in the back of a liquor store. By the fourth and final set, people were so drunk, it wasn't even worth playing. A Hispanic fellow mounted the stage in between songs, grabbed my mic and started singing/shouting something in Spanish.
To make matters worse, I was the sickest I'd been all year, barely able to breathe any of the hazy air that made visibility difficult.
Also, this 400 pound white chick kept flashing her boobs.
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Dean
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 11:29 |
^ I'm sure you mean Peter
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mrcozdude
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 11:25 |
Dean wrote:
^ Ha, I've experienced that as a band manager - the van containing half the band and all the gear got lost on the way to Camden and arrived with barely minutes to set up and play. Somehow in that short space of time (and while on stage) one of the band member's (no names to protect the innocent ) imbibed so much stress relieving beverage that she could barely stand and managed to bend the mic stand double in an attempt to support herself - needless to say the gig was more emotional than intended. I imposed a pre-gig alcohol ban after that, and suggested that only water be drunk while on stage. |
haha I imagine you as a PETER Grant type figure now....sorry lol My band before we tried to limit the amount we drank.I guess i was trying to compensate. I should probably let other people post more before I use this as an AA meeting lol.
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Dean
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 10:24 |
^ Ha, I've experienced that as a band manager - the van containing half the band and all the gear got lost on the way to Camden and arrived with barely minutes to set up and play. Somehow in that short space of time (and while on stage) one of the band member's (no names to protect the innocent ) imbibed so much stress relieving beverage that she could barely stand and managed to bend the mic stand double in an attempt to support herself - needless to say the gig was more emotional than intended. I imposed a pre-gig alcohol ban after that, and suggested that only water be drunk while on stage.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 09:44 |
I did a small gig with an old band and got so drunk I passed out on stage and get carried off.But that was a great gig.
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clarke2001
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 07:40 |
I saw bad gigs, and I played bad gigs, which I won't describe. I don't care much if I'm performing in front of a small audience (ten people) as far as I'm somewhat satisfied with performance. Also there were performances where audience cheered, shouted, applauded, asked for encores, but I don't think my band was deserving it. However, it's all part of the experience.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 06:59 |
Tell everyone about you bad gigging experience whether it was watching a band or performing.I had to do a two hour set in a village pup to a very small crowd of ten people most of which werean all womens darts team who were trying to watch the rugby.Two hours has never felt so slow.Lets just say they werent fond of us.
How about you?
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