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JLocke
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 22:35 |
For anybody to even question whether or not the Beatles influenced Prog is astounding to me.
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Dellinger
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 22:27 |
Perhaps to see how The Beatles influenced prog, we should see which of the songs and / or albums that the Beatles created were breaking ground and creating new ideas that eventually helped to create prog. In the end, let's remember that by the time prog began to exist, The Beatles were at their peak, and had been a major (if not THE Major) force in pop-rock while the Prog giants were still growing up and becoming musicians. It's clear that The Beatles were a major influence and were admired by many of prog's classic artists.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 20:47 |
Hey, great topic! All of the Above by Transatlantic immediately comes to mind, a huge epic that has Beatles influence all over it.
Perhaps though even some early Yes like I've Seen All Good People has considerable Beatles influence, and stuff from their first album like I See You.
Other stuff: Gentle Giant and early Genesis I'm sure... Aqua Vitae by Rocket Scientists (one really Beatlesque part), plenty of Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Glass Hammer, Echolyn... yeah I think the Beatles make up a huge amount of the influence of the more poppy side of prog. Ah yeah, the Stupid Dream album by Porcupine Tree, particularly "Piano Lessons".
Oh duh, and Caravan along with other Canterbury as well.
Edited by King Crimson776 - September 08 2009 at 20:49
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TODDLER
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 20:47 |
Atavachron wrote:
the Beatles' impact on prog is crucial but overestimated, I would say they fostered an atmosphere of a progressive attitude in popular music which, along with the whole period of art-as-rock, influenced some to push the form forward.. as far as prog songs that are traceable directly to Beatles songs, that's harder to say. I hear more Beatles in pop than I ever did in Prog which was a breaking from the standard format the band had to the end. |
I agree with this and you can hear the Beatles influence with prog artists who at one time or another attempted to write commercial rock. On the record SIDES by Anthony Phillips there is a song titles Lucy Will which is in the style of the Beatles. FEEL THE BENEFIT by 10CC sounds much like DEAR PRUDENCE. Detailed aspects to music by bands who crossover into prog. Some of the recording techniques used by George Martin that turned up on Magical Mystery Tour and SPLHCB, have been duplicated in space rock over the years. The approach in Beatles composition when using horns or mellotron was a bit on the darkside. Especially during a time when many American signed bands were recording cover songs and not many artists would have thought to use such instrumentation.
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progmatic
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 20:43 |
King's X uses Beatles-like harmonies to go along with its funky progrock
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 20:29 |
the Beatles' impact on prog is crucial but overestimated, I would say they fostered an atmosphere of a progressive attitude in popular music which, along with the whole period of art-as-rock, influenced some to push the form forward.. as far as prog songs that are traceable directly to Beatles songs, that's harder to say. I hear more Beatles in pop than I ever did in Prog which was a breaking from the standard format the band had to the end.
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TODDLER
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 20:27 |
There is a piece at the closing of Jerry Goodman and Jan Hammer Like Children titled I Wonder. It reminds me of the ending to I Want You(she's so heavy).
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Darklord55
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 19:59 |
You'll probably think I'm crazy but who cares. Opeth's Master's Apprentices at about the 6:00 minute mark through about 7:46. The solo singing and harmonies sound very Beatlesque to me. I have played this for a few of my friends who agreed. The first time it hit me, I was watching the Lamentations DVD. ?
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The Quiet One
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 19:49 |
Ladies of the Road by King Crimson is known by it's Beatles-esque vocals.
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 19:42 |
The only song I can think of is "Four Chords That Made a Million" by Porcupine Tree!
Every time I hear that song it reminds me of The Beatles.
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soundscape
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Posted: September 08 2009 at 19:17 |
Hi gang, Many of the folks over at The Dividing Line mailing list have been having a small debate about the Beatles influence on prog. I decided the best way to settle this is to take the best Beatle Inspired prog tunes and put them together for a Beatleprog episode of Soundscape. I have found a great many pieces of music that are Beatleprog, but I do not want to miss the most important ones. You guys are the experts and I always appreciate your feedback here. Can you guys tell me what you believe to be the top Beatleprog songs (Progressive Artists influenced by Beatles.
Cheers and Thanks, Woody
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