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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:51 |
progkidjoel wrote:
^^Its alot less accessible than their other albums... Its great, but it takes more consideration than their other albums in my opinion.
Still unmissable, and who knows, it might turn someone on to prog |
That's what I think. What about Opeth? I'd recommend Still Life or Ghost Reveries
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - August 28 2009 at 20:52
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progkidjoel
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:45 |
^^Its alot less accessible than their other albums... Its great, but it takes more consideration than their other albums in my opinion.
Still unmissable, and who knows, it might turn someone on to prog
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:44 |
progkidjoel wrote:
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
What about the Sky Moves Sideways then? |
Their best, easily, but I wouldn't reccomend it to a new listener of Porcupine Tree or Prog. |
Why not?
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progkidjoel
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:38 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
What about the Sky Moves Sideways then? |
Their best, easily, but I wouldn't reccomend it to a new listener of Porcupine Tree or Prog.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:36 |
What about the Sky Moves Sideways then?
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progkidjoel
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:16 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel |
I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis )
As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album |
Fair enough...
But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:12 |
this is hard!
Yes - Fragile Genesis - Selling England KC - In the Court ELP - s/t Hatfield and the North - s/t Gentle Giant - Octopus Amon Duul II - Yeti Area - Arbeit Macht Frei RTF - Romantic Warrior SMM - Maltid
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:08 |
progkidjoel wrote:
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^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums...
...And I just love Peter Gabriel
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I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis )
As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - August 28 2009 at 20:10
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progkidjoel
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:00 |
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^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums...
...And I just love Peter Gabriel
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:48 |
progkidjoel wrote:
1. YES - Relayer 2. Genesis - Nursery Cryme 3. YES - Close To The Edge 4. Porcupine Tree - IN ABSENTIA 5. Peter Gabriel - UP 6. Marillion - Marbles 7. Marillion - Clutching At Straws 8. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick 9. Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun 10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon |
Weird list. Two Marillion, two Porcupine Tree, Peter Gabriel?
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progkidjoel
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:25 |
1. YES - Relayer
2. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
3. YES - Close To The Edge
4. Porcupine Tree - IN ABSENTIA
5. Peter Gabriel - UP
6. Marillion - Marbles
7. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
8. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
9. Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun
10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:17 |
1. Marillion Brave 2. Genesis Selling England By The Pound 3. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever 4. Dream Theater Scenes From A Memory 5. Kansas Leftoverture 6. Camel The Snowgoose 7. Yes Close To The Edge 8. The Flower Kings Paradox Hotel 9. Spock's Beard Snow 10. Riverside Anno Domini High Definition
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:46 |
10- Le Orme's Uomo di Pezza
9- Änglagård's Hybris
9- Univers Zero's Hérésie
8- Caravan's In the Land of Grey and Pink
8- Miles Davis' Bitches Brew
7- Genesis' Selling England by the Pound
7- Frank Zappa's Hot Rats
6- Dün - Eros
5- Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick
4- Van Der Graaf Generator's Godbluff
4- Gentle Giant's Free Hand
3- Pink Floyd's Animals
2- Genesis' Foxtrot
1- Yes' Close to the Edge
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - September 13 2009 at 14:48
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:32 |
Why not?
1. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
2. Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
3. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
4. Pink Floyd - Meddle
5. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey and Pink
6. Rush - A Farewell to Kings
7. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
8. Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory
9. King Crimson - Red
10. And for something newer - The Tangent - A Place In The Queue
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:10 |
The Switch Blade wrote:
If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?
01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon" 02. Yes - "Close to the Edge" 03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King" 04. Rush - "Moving Pictures" 05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick" 07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia" 08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II" 09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium" 10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"
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interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there.. what is 'progressive' about them. We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha. Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive. I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music' where is the vast wealth of music from Germany. again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same. They should... but someone had to genrify prog and make complex synonymous with progressive. What bunch of sh*t that is hahha. I'll take a stab of course.... 1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and the shear scope of the album has never been approached. Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT) 2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music. But it is the one to start with.... ) 3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive) 4. Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog... which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago) 5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie) 6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's) 7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog. Prog without a doubt... completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others) 8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal) 9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. ) 10. Can -Tago Mago (make a top 10 list without Can... and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential. The Krautrock starter)
Edited by micky - August 28 2009 at 18:12
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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paulwalker71
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:23 |
Hmmm.... in retrospect my 10 would need to include some Rush - how could I have left them out... For a totalnewbie it would be Moving Picture, for some a bit more clued-up probably A Farewell to Kings
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:16 |
Tarkus The Yes Album Meddle Larks' Tongues in Aspic Pictures at an Exhibition Birds of Fire Crossings Hemispheres Octopus Thick as a Brick
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paulwalker71
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:10 |
in no particular order
Genesis 'Selling England by the pound' Yes 'Close to the Edge' Marillion 'Misplaced Childhood' ELP 'Brain Salad Surgery' Frank Zappa 'One size fits all' Pink Floyd 'Dark side of the moon' Dream Theatrer 'Images and Words' The Flower Kings 'Unfold the future' The Enid 'Aerie Fairie Nonsense' Transatlantic SMPT
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:09 |
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Yes - The Yes Album Genesis - Foxtrot Frank Zappa - Hot Rats Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Jethro Tull - Stand Up Gentle Giant - Octopus Miles Davis - Bitches Brew Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent Camel - Mirage
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:59 |
Negoba wrote:
The old schtick of giving Univers Zero and Magma to newbies....I guess it's still funny.
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Well, my father told me once that I would enjoy Magma: I was a 15 year-old metalhead. And I think Henry Cow or Art Zoyd are much harder to get into than Magma and UZ (of course, I won't even talk about giving Kluster to a newbie).
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