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zicIy 
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 Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:58 |
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:57 |
 rogerthat wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
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Indeed, I hope he meant bestselling cars!  They do have a wide range of offerings across the board, no denying, but where are those Lamborghinis? |
The Japanese don't make cars that are as flashy as the Italians but if you want a good reliable vehicle look no further than Honda or Toyota. The Japanese small trucks are now ahead of even the American small truck manufacturers. If you are looking for a really good roadster you must consider the Honda S2000.
Hey, I was a mechanic and I swear by the Japanese vehicles. 
You and your mate will look good in the gem below without looking overly pretentious like say Keith Emerson  , plus the design and execution of the S2000 is world class.
Just drive one and you will see.
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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:57 |
rushfan4 wrote:
There are those that would beg to differ on Alice Cooper. A semi-recent discussion had those who were citing the shock rocker's progginess. There was even some mention regarding his latest concept album release. |
a concept album not a prog album make.....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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claugroi
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:56 |
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Hahahaa, no comparison: UK prog in head !
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Symphonic Prog Master
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zicIy
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:55 |
Raff wrote:
Just tell me where I mentioned Uriah Heep, whom I don't even like .... |
Sorry.
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:55 |
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There are those that would beg to differ on Alice Cooper. A semi-recent discussion had those who were citing the shock rocker's progginess. There was even some mention regarding his latest concept album release.
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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:50 |
zicIy wrote:
Raff wrote:
Alice Cooper  . |
why he´s not Prog, if Uriah Heep is ? yes, this is "if X than Y" stuff, BUT PLEASE TELL ME WHY? your opinion? of course i´m here for fun, but ,also, to learn something more about that progressive music. |
ever hear of little p and capital P axiom. progressive rock and Progressive Rock are not one and the same. was Alice Cooper progressive 'rock.'. of course he was. ..so was Elvis ... does he have any association with 'Progressive Rock' Nope.
Edited by micky - March 11 2009 at 15:53
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:48 |
Just tell me where I mentioned Uriah Heep, whom I don't even like ....
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zicIy
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:45 |
Raff wrote:
Alice Cooper . |
why he´s not Prog, if Uriah Heep is ? yes, this is "if X than Y" stuff, BUT PLEASE TELL ME WHY? your opinion? of course i´m here for fun, but ,also, to learn something more about that progressive music.
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zicIy
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:36 |
Raff wrote:
Excellent list, but perhaps you forgot that we're talking about PROG here.... I wouldn't call the likes of Alice Cooper or The Doobie Brothers prog. |
i have an "strange" idea that U.S. progressive popular music is very different than British, and, IMHO, much better.
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Raff
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:29 |
Excellent list, but perhaps you forgot that we're talking about PROG here.... I wouldn't call the likes of Alice Cooper or The Doobie Brothers prog .
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zicIy
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 15:18 |
Abstrakt wrote:
zicIy wrote:
i voted initialy for that U.S. kind of progressive POPULAR music...coz of Miles, Coltrane, Jarrett, Corea, Cobham, Zappa, Sly, Wonder, Bloomfield, Rundgren, Kansas, Steely Dan, The Grateful Dead, Iron Butterfly, It's a Beautiful Day, ... and many others!  |
That's a FANTASTIC bunch!  
But what's that bunch compared to:
Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis, King Crimson, ELP, Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Uriah Heep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath,
The Beatles, Rainbow, Soft Machine, Led Zeppelin, Camel, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator, Caravan,
Jethro Tull...
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should i say what?
well., ok... Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin And Big Brother&The Holding Company, Commander Cody and The Lost Planet, The Doobie Brothers, Jefferson Airplane, Jan & Dean, Journey, Steve Miller Band, Seals& Crofts, The Velvet Underground, Sparks, Spirit,Ry Cooder, Tower of Power, Sons Of Champlin, Canned Heat, Tim Buckley,Joni Mitchell, Buffalo Springfiield, CSN&Y, Chicago, Alice Cooper...Prince... David Torn....Steve Tibetts......Oregon........ Art Ensemble of Chicago... ...hey, i get enough! 
Edited by zicIy - March 11 2009 at 15:33
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angelmk
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 12:50 |
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UK prog .
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Failcore
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 12:26 |
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They're are good artists on both sides. I abstain from voting.
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 11:46 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
USA by a large margin. Besides the original giants don't find much quality in the UK. |
True enough, UK seems to the chief in neo-prog ever since Marillion came to public knowledge, but it seems like every group coming from there since is incapable of doing sometyhing else but neo_prog.... past the 70's , its US hands down (all genres considered)
And it's not the odd exception like Karda Estra that will deny this rule. Even Thieve's Kitchen's latest album wth its strong retro-prog flavour reeks of neo-prog.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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infandous
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 10:35 |
infandous wrote:
micky wrote:
poslednijat_colobar wrote:
andromacus wrote:
were is the italian prog? or german kraut?
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It could be another interesting poll, I think!
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it could be.. but wouldn't.... if the 'world' could barely edge the UK. How do think a subset of that would fare. We all know that people tend to stick to the familiar...
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Well, if it's any consolation, even though I picked the UK over the US in this poll (and I'm a US citizen).......I would pick Italy over the UK for prog without hesitation.
The UK may have invented prog, but Italy perfected it
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infandous
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 10:34 |
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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 07:42 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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someone_else
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 07:35 |
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UK prog has been far, far ahead of US prog, but this distance has somewhat lessened lately.
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poslednijat_colobar
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 02:27 |
andromacus wrote:
were is the italian prog? or german kraut?
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It could be another interesting poll, I think!
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