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trev darks
Forum Newbie Joined: February 08 2011 Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Posted: February 08 2011 at 15:21 |
By the way I do LOVE that Red Rick 4001-my fave Bass Gtr.
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trev darks
Forum Newbie Joined: February 08 2011 Status: Offline Points: 5 |
Posted: February 08 2011 at 15:19 |
Hi trev Darks here,I.m sorry for not acknowleding your post,my computer skills are abysmal. I'm quite happy to reply to any queries & after nearly 30 years am back in touch with Paul MacDonnell with whom I wrote the bulk of the material on "Automati Fine Tuning". So if you have any questions please feel free to ask. I do have a my space site called Trev Darks where I've left a taster of some of the material I've written since AFT.
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clarkpegasus4001
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 13 2011 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 635 |
Posted: February 01 2011 at 10:46 |
The silence is deafening! so I can only assume that Trev and Paul or not part of this forum anymore? No reply to my email either, mmmmm'
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Tony C.
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clarkpegasus4001
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 13 2011 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 635 |
Posted: January 13 2011 at 02:13 |
Paul. I hope you don't mind if I email you? but I warn you I have a LOT of questions! I've been wondering what happened to you and the band for years. Tony C. |
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clarkpegasus4001
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 13 2011 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 635 |
Posted: January 13 2011 at 02:11 |
Hi Trev. At LONG last, I have been trying to find out about your band for years! Your AFT album has always been my all time fave album. Your band were also the first band I ever saw as well. I think it was late 1976? it was at the Ritz Cinema , Long Eaton in Nottingham can you recall that gig? I remember most of it like yesterday. There was a power cut and Dave Ball did a short drum solo before power was restored! I was right at the front (in front of Rob). I remember that a few of us got up to "dance" and a guy who was totally drunk fell over Rob's effects! and he just laughed and carried on! That gig will always be my fave gig and it brings back wonderful memories for me.
I have a huge list of questions but here's a few to be going on with for now..... There was a vocalist who got up to sing who was he? You guys played a track that "is going to be on our next album" do you recall what it was called? Did you ever record another AFT album that didn't get issued? i could have sworn it was Rob Cross who played with a bow and not Paul as was suggested in another post? although my memory fades! no sorry it was Paul! I have a 1975 Rickenbacker 4001 bass that I play in my Budgie tribute band (In For The Kill), do you still have yours and what age is it? I only got one because Chris Squire and yourself used one! Your album and that 1st gig inspired me to take up guitar and later bass. I did notice that Paul himself has been on here and left his email address so you can be sure i'll be emailing him with an awul lot of questions (sorry Paul)! Thanks and best wishes Tony C. (Tony Clark) Edited by clarkpegasus4001 - December 21 2011 at 01:28 |
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diddlepara
Forum Newbie Joined: July 06 2010 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 2 |
Posted: July 06 2010 at 20:01 |
Dear All aft bloggers,
Having just posted my initial blog I had not realised that all of you had posted so many comments.The news of bobbo is very sad and it was a very special time I had with you guys, although I couldn't stay the distance.My memories are all the rehearsing/blowing in the squat and a few other things to...contact [email protected] rest in riffs bobbo, tim x |
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diddlepara
Forum Newbie Joined: July 06 2010 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 2 |
Posted: July 06 2010 at 19:43 |
Trevor! I had wondered what happened to my first serious band mates,even though I missed out on the album which Dave did brilliantly.The band I joined after you(valhalla) supported ac/dc at the Marquee for their first ever gigs in London and I still have a program also showing aft on in the same month.I suppose the punk movement put some nails in the coffin as well as the cooking by grossman ! I would like to catch up with you sometime so give me a contact e-mail.What news of paula and bobbo? Also did you know 21 Formosa street does not exist any more.I go past there often as my aunt is still living in a flat nearby,shes' 90 and has a casette copy of the album but it could kill her if played!!!!Love from the original drummer tim x
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PaulMacd
Forum Newbie Joined: June 05 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2 |
Posted: June 05 2010 at 23:21 |
Hi Trev, lovely to talk to you after all these years. Thanks for the compliments. One tries one's best. To any AFT fans out there:
[email protected] Years ahead of its time maybe, but 34 years? Paul |
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PaulMacd
Forum Newbie Joined: June 05 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2 |
Posted: June 05 2010 at 04:48 |
Morning Darks, blast from the past or what? I don't remember you starting Part 1, it was always me when we played live. Still alive and still writing. I've done a make-over on the front end, which I'll send you if you give me somewhere to mail it. So sorry to hear about Bobbo. R.I.P.
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268 |
Posted: April 01 2010 at 17:41 |
great to see AFT back on the map where they deserve
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Muttley
Forum Newbie Joined: March 21 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Posted: April 01 2010 at 03:06 |
I thought some of you guys may find this of interesting, I found a site of Stephen Paul who was one of the guys that recorded AFT for Charisma back in 75. Interesting and also very pleasing for me, to note what he said about the band as follows, “the band AFT (Automatic Fine Tuning) who is often referred to as the grand daddy of metal”. Here is the link http://stephenpaul.org/music/ and also the text from his site. Regards,
Muttley
By the mid-seventies, my recording projects started to traverse the Atlantic Ocean. In '75, I made a record for Tony Stratton Smith's label Charisma/Atlantic. The band was AFT (Automatic Fine Tuning) who is often referred to as the grand daddy of metal. Two of my favorite artists, Peter Gabriel and Alan Parsons, were on Tony's label at the time. I recorded AFT in a barn at Ian Anderson's (Jethro Tull) farm outside London using the Rolling Stones Mobile (a/k/a Maison Rouge Mobile Studio). In '76, I recorded the Phillip Goodhand-Tait demos and shortly thereafter he was picked up by Chrysalis/EMI. Phillip was the founder of the Stormsville Shakers and contributed some songs (and keyboard playing) on Roger Daltry's Ride A Rock Horse and One Of The Boys solo albums. On the other side of the Atlantic, I built a 24 track studio in Philly (Earmark) at which many projects were recorded during its five year history. Several other Engineers worked with me at Earmark including John Doelp and Ben Wisch. Earmark did quite a bit of major label work for Columbia/Sony, ABC Dunhill/Peacock, Elektra, Atlantic, MCA and others. The legendary Ira Tucker, founder and lead vocalist of the Dixie Hummingbirds, produced eleven gospel albums for ABC at Earmark including one by the Jackson Southernaires. And, Stevie Wonder, Sister Sledge, Patti LaBelle, Nona Hendryx, Sara Dash, Trussel, Fred Wesley (James Brown, George Clinton), William DeVaughn, John Davis, New England and many other artists and musicians recorded at Earmark. |
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Muttley
Forum Newbie Joined: March 21 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Posted: March 24 2010 at 23:36 |
Hi Kevin,
Sorry I had to be the one to inform you of Bob's illness and about him passing away, he had the big C and lost his battle with the disease many years ago. Jo was his wife and had two children Emily and Carmen, but separated some years later. I will email you of more details soon Kevin.
Trevor could tell you more about the tracks on the AFT album, but as they decided not to continue with a vocalist (excluding Queen or the Night) some of the earlier works that we did in Glider, was lost as far as I can remember. Terminal C had beautiful words that the guys wrote, and hopefully Trevor maybe able to dig them up for us, as I cannot remember them. And as you can see in the track list Panjandrum wheel, Terminal C and Wolvereine was originally single tracks, along with other works,
Love to all,
Steve
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Kevin01
Forum Newbie Joined: February 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
Posted: March 22 2010 at 16:39 |
Steve (Muttly),
When Bob moved to Devon, he and his new girlfriend (Jo) lived opposite me and because of my involvement with music, we quickly got to know each other. Hearing he died (And now knowing it was 18 years ago), really sent a shock through me. (I moved to Poland 20 years ago and have only been back to Devon 3-4 times) Through Robert, I met Trev and we started working on some stuff - I brought in Brendon, but, like me, he realised there was no future in the set up - He went of to work with Elkie Brookes and is still there today - I can't speak highly enough of either Trevor or Robert - They were top drawer musicians - But, I honestly think stuck on the aft path which was always going to lead nowhere. (I am not pissing on aft - I simply think aft needed a lot more lyrics to get the blend right - I don't know how Robert passed away or even if he was still in Devon - As for Trevor - He was running a sort of outdoor burger bar and was planning to move to Cornwall to do the same down there. I heard all the stories about Glider and your involvment - but, having read your post today, Finding this news about Robert a bit of a handfull - Did some googling and found a post by his daughter - The dates would suggest Jo was her mother, but, because both Rob and Jo were so heavily into booze nand other things, I really don't know - her post is below - Kev - btw, Steve - my email is [email protected] - To me this is a dream come ture to hear really for the first time a part of my dads music. I am Emily Cross and my father was the guiarist Robert Cross. Unfortuntly he past away when i was just only five, 19years ago never to see him or no of his band perform. But i was told about him from his parents my Nan and Grandad and the bands groupies aswell of some of his good friends who all would tell my storys about how dad had magic fingers, how good him and his band was how that would play in the Reading Rock Festival. Only now knowing that the band A.F.T released an album in the summer of 1976, oh ya and how they choose the name A.F.T they couldn't agree on a name for it so someone shouted out "call it any f***ing thing" so they did, but it couldnt really say that on a front cover or out loud so they shortened it to A.F.T and made it into Automatic Fine Tuning so hat was that. Anything my Dad done i am very proud of i am very lucky to have had a Dad that altough he had little time with me and my sister the time he did have of his rock younger days, the traveling the giges the friends and family which all said he live life to the full such a great man with alot of talent he had and enjoyed that life. I would love to no more about the band and his self all my love emily x |
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Muttley
Forum Newbie Joined: March 21 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Posted: March 21 2010 at 23:16 |
Hi All,
My name is Steve Lusted (Muttley) and was the drummer with Trevor, Paul, Bob and Ronnie when we was Glider. I had a breakdown and sadly left the band just before they renamed it to AFT, Dave Ball took my place on drums and did a formidable job, plus he could sing better than me anyway LOL. I shortly left to live in Perth, Western Australia and still here today. AFT and the old band Glider was way ahead in time with the stile of the music and I to am saddened the guys did not continue to stick together. And on another sad note, Bob Cross did pass away many years ago and my wife Kym and I still keep in touch with his family in Reading.
I must admit, I cried like a baby when I saw this post as I have been searching for info on the guys most of my life here in OZ and never could find much on them, looked in BT phone directories and looking on the net, but now maybe have a chance of contacting them? TREVOR, WERE THE HELL ARE YOU?
If anyone has or know of anyone that may have photos of the old band Glider, then please contact me, I would love to reminisce and also show my kids the band, as sadly I have only one single picture of me and Bob.
Any one can drop me a line ([email protected])
Love you guys,
Muttley
Steve Lusted
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Cock Willis
Forum Newbie Joined: March 03 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:58 |
Oh wow - I've been looking out for info on your band for decades. I saw the band I guess not long after the album was released at the Marquee in London. There was a bit of a stir 'cause Ian Anderson was in the audience. I bought the album the following weekend and been listening to it for decades. It's the only record I've converted to mp3s.
I remember seeing something on the net a few years ago saying that one of the guitarists died. Is this true?
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Kevin01
Forum Newbie Joined: February 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
Posted: February 04 2010 at 13:55 |
Trev - You still around Cornwall or Devon brewing burgers? Just after AFT broke up, me, you, Bob and Brendon (drummer) did a load of work at Sam's house in Heanton - Remember those days? Got to say it - Bob was an amazing guitarist you your bass playing blew me away - Great times! Give me a shout ([email protected]) Kev |
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 35998 |
Posted: January 07 2010 at 12:20 |
Just moving this topic because the band has been in for a long time/ it's no longer a band suggestion for PA thread.
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Duncanos
Forum Newbie Joined: January 06 2010 Location: Reading, Berksh Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: January 06 2010 at 15:19 |
Hi,
Was good friends with members of The Dumb blondes / boys from brazil and have sadly lost contact with them. Mike and Paul last i knew living in London. Mike has a daughter and I believe he is divorced/seperated.
Would love to see Mike McDonnell again. John Payne married with kids somewhere. Foxley the drummer likewise. Nick Hollings teaching guitar in Reading still I think.
If anyone can get me in touch with Mike from reading this forum id be delighted. ncanos.
Duncanos
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rockyacockyamookers
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davynewham
Forum Newbie Joined: September 28 2009 Location: glasgow Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: September 28 2009 at 15:49 |
Good to read your remarks on the AFT album Trev.I watched you all as Glider in the Target in Reading in the 70s You,Muttley.Ronnie McQinn,Paul,Barry( then IK )& Richard.My brother Terry passed himself off as a roadie with you guys,he was affectionately known as Jock. I saw AFT at Reading in 76 and was really impressed how things had progressed,if I remember correctly you had a bit of an equipment issue there.I still have the AFT album and still enjoy digging it out from time to time. What happened to the guys from Reading,Paul etc (Dumb Blondes ?!)
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Dean
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 13:21 |
^ Yes, him and Black Oak Arkansas - neither appealed to me but I was beyond caring by then
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