British Prog is the best??

BaldJean wrote: stonebeard wrote: As far as the archetypal "prog" goes, yeah. Germany has some great bands, but krautrock is quite different from prog music. I can't be the only one to make the distinction...   I wouldn't say it is different from prog. it is definitely different from British prog though

most definitely.

stonebeard wrote: As far as the archetypal "prog" goes, yeah. Germany has some great bands, but krautrock is quite different from prog music. I can't be the only one to make the distinction...

I wouldn't say it is different from prog. it is definitely different from British prog though

Ghost Rider wrote: I have to side with Rocktopus on this (not on the ignorant part, though). If we are talking about the late Sixties-early Seventies, of course British prog was the trailblazer - though other countries, like my native Italy or Germany, were very quick to take up the cue and start a vibrant prog scene of their own. The release dates of many essential prog albums from other European countries bear witness to that.  As for the following decades, with the exception of the Neo period of the early Eighties, British prog basically went into a steady decline, while the prog scene remains strong to this day in many European countries, including Italy.

based on the history of recordings this seems to be correct. however, the German prog scene had existed earlier already; it was just that no band dared to record an album. there was a kind of inferiority complex. this only changed after Amon Düül recorded and published their horrible album "Psychedelic Underground". after that album had been published no group needed to have an inferiority complex anymore; you could hardly get any worse. and suddenly the whole scene started to record albums

Good comment Lemming-man

I'm not saying you are a hippy - maybe you ought to bring out the "hippy-ine" side in you.

A you won't disagree, the hippies lead Progressive music in the 60's and 70's, but I guess the overall hippy life was too hard to lead (even the British struggled with that in the end), and things moved on.  But intellectual rock music didn't (some say "geek" music these days but I would be offended by that).  Maybe it was the "whole big lifestyle" thing that made it become a hindrance, but you can still be opposed to war, hatred and over-patriotism (I'm not saying you aren't of course!!)

Hippy culture largely died out I guess, but the legacy of sophisticated rock remained.  I almost prefer the term "sophisticated rock" for the prog rock of today - take bands like Mars Volta and Oeansize - they are certainly NOT hippies but they and their music is well well cool dude.  Alternative rock isn't such a good term - people expect "Indie" with that.

I really like punk music too - well I did when I was very young.  Maybe that's why I can't help liking the Mars Volta perhaps - a good mix from both genres (very rare sadly)

Thanks Atavachron! 

As an additional note (only partly related to my post above) - When I was young it was always "hippy rock".  The term Prog I never heard until recent years (don't mind though - I'm happy with that)



This World-nastiness is what the hippies detested...

Rocktopus wrote: Garion81 wrote: I am so tired of the USA getting crapped on in threads like this.       I'm tired of brits and americans crapping on the rest of the world.

A bit severe don't you think?

But aren't we all hippies who look at this website?  From an alternative culture where "hippy rock" (or Prog rock) was the main thing in hippy culture.  It was the hippies who hated all that World-beating-up stuff - we certainly don't stand for that (we're embarrassed about all that and want it to change
That is why the original music had to come from Britain, where the middle-class youth were embarrassed about the past and produced the music that went with it

Times changed and the rest of the World took it on - with fabulous results - I've been listening to Opeth's new album (I know it's not quite Norwegian, but nearly) and it's really really good...

All in all it's just another brick in the wall...

there is some great music on the swedish progressive rock boxed set. by the way how many progressive bands were there in america from 1969 to 1974.

I drive an Alfa Romeo 159 turbo-diesel down here on the underside of the globe. It sure likes the prog I play via. CD or media player. How do I know? It tells me so, in English ,whats more . You work it out, but I think its telling me that it's all good. Right now it's really into RITUAL

Lets compare cars shall we. Ok the English..................well, maybe we should not talk about them when it comes to cars. There was an old saying back in the days when I was a mechanic. "Lucas electrics leaves you in the dark"

Micky, you may be right, but damn i think humility is NOT your best feature. . .