Virtuosity vs Arrogance

i know what the original poster means. Although i do come back every so often (lots of times it's KC), ive moved out of the prog world and into everything great like jazz, funk, Zappa, world music, jam bands, african music, avant-guard classical composers, some good pop (ex. Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, Peter Gabriel, Stevie Wonder, etc.), some rap (mostly trip hop or jazz rap) and also make my way back to my earlier metal and hard rock days.

i basically listen to music, but i love this site and it has such a vast amount of music.


Edited by darkshade - May 30 2008 at 02:10

I think this guy brought up a great point, yes I get pretty tired of the stale technicallity of most prog rock, sometimes I hear no emotion or atmosphere, which is what I've been craving for the past year or so. Therefore I got into post rock, and eventually I'll get tired of the outpour of emotion, and probably return to stylized prog rock. Tastes move in waves.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Why arrogant? Because they try to break boundaries? Because of their virtuosism?   Because they don't limit themselves to mainstream? Or maybe it's called arrogant by people who don't bother to understand it. I like a lot of music from different genres, but ui consider the behaviour of many mainstream artists who feel they are gods much more arrogant than the average Proghead,m just look what are the requirements of Michael Jackson, Madonna or any rapper to visit a country and compare them with any Prog musician.   Iván

touché Ivan.

tuxon wrote: I like prog because of it's arrogant nature, being music that delibberatly and arrogantly defiece common ground.   and off course prog failes misserably, but at least the attempt is being made.   anyone who thinks prog music is better than Madonna, Prince or Michael Jackson is by definition wrong, but stil I like prog better than anything else, just a matter of taste.

agreed (well, sorta)


Edited by CCVP - May 29 2008 at 22:44

tszirmay wrote: CCVP wrote: /\ don't what?   I was complementing your choices, they are such that you don't need to be be more open-minded

i don't know. . . i still have some issues with neo prog, zehul and some other prog styles. But if you say so, who am i to disagree?


Edited by CCVP - May 29 2008 at 19:59

CCVP wrote: /\ don't what?

The Wizard wrote: I don't listen to prog enough these days....   It's not that I don't like it, it's just that my music taste has expanded a lot and i've realized the world is full of good music outside of prog. It seems like when I was prog obsessed I judged music by how 'proggy' is was and didn't listen for the sake of the music itself. Now a lot of stuff I couldn't appreciate back then I love and some of the music I liked back then just dosn't hold up.

well, thats not exactly my problem. I listen to basically anything that i like. The thing is that most things i like are classified as prog. . .

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don't what?

the music i listen to:

90% classified as prog
10% classical metal and rock, jazz, extreme metal and some other stuff

maybe i should be open minded, but i just cant

I frankly listen to only prog , have done so for years IN SILENCE ! and without any arrogant desire to convert anyone. Reason: there is SO MUCH diversity in Prog , one can go from the very soft Gian Castello or Hostsonaten to the mercurial aura of symphonic masterpieces (endless list), via a little Canterbury or prog-jazz (Zaal, Soft Machine) to the insidious power of Magma or Taal. A little Neo here, a tad RIO there, some TDream electronica when bliss is requested. When I wanna rock, I  choose some BOC, Wishbone Ash, Robin Trower etc...When I feel sad or melancholic , since 1972 , Roxy Music always wipes away the pain.....Don't need to go elsewhere.........