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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 14:24

DANIEL FICHELSCHER (on the right) from the german folk fusion popol Vuh is by far one of the most talented and original guitarist in prog music...better than Gilmour, Fripp and others

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 13:52

[QUOTE=threefates]Don't you know that the 'best guitarist' is whoever you think it is!![/QUOTE

 

We had this a while back with the best drummer,Your right Linda,their is no best what ever be it drummer or guit box.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 13:38
Don't you know that the 'best guitarist' is whoever you think it is!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 13:10
Originally posted by Progressor Progressor wrote:

  1. Steve Hackett (Genesis Era) what a bizaare thing to put,surely if you think he's the best,he's the best regardless of who he is playing with?Confused
  2. Andy Latimer (Camel)
  3. Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
  4. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
  5. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
  6. John McLaughlin (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
  7. Frank Zappa (Frank Zappa)
  8. Dave Clempson (Colosseum)
  9. Allan Holdsworth (UK, Gong, Solo) But not if he's playing on anything else?ConfusedConfused
  10. Steve Howe (The Yes)

here we are discussing the best prog guitarist and we get a post based on favouritism!Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 12:50
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Nice to see Steve Rothery so high on your list there, Greenie - but I think you're unnecessarily harsh on Johnny Greenwood (Radiohead), who develops some amazing sounds and does some really creative (and progressive ) things with his guitar.

Because you don't like Radiohead, your marking of him just looks like sour grapes - not a reasonable technical evaluation at all.

maybe you are partly right, Cert, but i proceed with comparison, and, seriously, i have right now no worse guitarist names in my mind: they certainly exist, so that greenwood' ratings would slightly increase to 0.5/10; 1/10 in the best case.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 12:23
I think Fripp and Gilmour are good, but they lack speed and technique. I think either Steve Howe or Alex Lifeson are the best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 11:40
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

It's a little hard to describe Hendrix properly nowadays. You see, back in the day when I was growing up in the 60s, guitarists simply didn't do that much with their instruments. They just strummed or picked or smasked them to pieces, and THAT was rock music. There were no real melodies, no real riffs, no real siginicance in their tenchnique. And then out of nowhere came Hendrix, doing the weirdest sh*t with his guitar. It was the Big Bang of rock music as we know it. Try listening to rock music  He made the guitar INTERESTING. He's been imitated over and over since then, so it's hard for yuoung people to understand what was happening, but suffice it to say, Hendrix did for guitars what Dylan did for lyrics. His sonic experiments represented, possibly, the greatest leap in the sound of rock that has ever been witnessed. He was, more than anybody else, a complete guitarist, in that his riffing, soloing, and noise-making abilities were practically untouchable. For all intents and purposes, it was as if Jimi didn't just play his guitar - he was a guitar. Everything, whether coaxing a strange noise from his axe, or playing with his teeth, or whatever, was like breathing or going to the bathroom for him.

Just pick up a rock record that came out before 1967 and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I see.  Well that clears up a lot. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 10:47

Greenback, your entry is a 10 !   

On discussing guitar players in Prog Rock, again I believe that the personal mood of a given moment will determine the value of what you are listening to. This will have nothing to do with skill or talent. Its just notes that hits the brain and will be transformed into serotonin in a higher or smaller dose. So whatever you listen to, in that frame, you'll praise the musician for having pleased you.

Therefore, my friends, there is no such as "The Best".

Now for general info, the ones that pleases me most are Edgar Froese, Andy Latimer, Steve Howe, Carlos Santana (Caravanserai, Welcome) Mike Oldfield, John McLauglin, and Jan Akkerman.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 10:29

It's a little hard to describe Hendrix properly nowadays. You see, back in the day when I was growing up in the 60s, guitarists simply didn't do that much with their instruments. They just strummed or picked or smasked them to pieces, and THAT was rock music. There were no real melodies, no real riffs, no real siginicance in their tenchnique. And then out of nowhere came Hendrix, doing the weirdest sh*t with his guitar. It was the Big Bang of rock music as we know it. Try listening to rock music  He made the guitar INTERESTING. He's been imitated over and over since then, so it's hard for yuoung people to understand what was happening, but suffice it to say, Hendrix did for guitars what Dylan did for lyrics. His sonic experiments represented, possibly, the greatest leap in the sound of rock that has ever been witnessed. He was, more than anybody else, a complete guitarist, in that his riffing, soloing, and noise-making abilities were practically untouchable. For all intents and purposes, it was as if Jimi didn't just play his guitar - he was a guitar. Everything, whether coaxing a strange noise from his axe, or playing with his teeth, or whatever, was like breathing or going to the bathroom for him.

Just pick up a rock record that came out before 1967 and you'll know what I'm talking about.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 10:08
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

1. Jimi Hendrix (Because there are guitarists and then there's Hendrix...)

2. Robert Fripp (Even though he wouldn't give me his damn autograph, I still admire his technique)

3. Frank Zappa (Most of his solos were IMPROVISED!! And they WORKED!!)

4. Justin Hayward (Niiights in Whiite Saaatiiin, baby!!)

5. Roger Hodgson (The reason Supertramp is considered halfway progressive)

Eh, as much as I like the guy, I don't really see why so many people think of Hendrix as this other-worldly guuitar god.... If you look back at what he did, he made great music, but most of it was just making some crazy noises on a guitar.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 09:12

When asked I would claim Fripp is the best musician (who happens to execute his musicianship through the medium of the guitar). But for my money the best prog guitarist is Jan Akkerman of Focus. Speed/invention/technique/classical sensibility and outright raw power are all within his grasp.

Bubblin under...

Gary Green/Fred Frith/Steve Hackett/Steve Howe/

and of course Gilmour for sheer taste and knowing how to play the rests as well as the notes!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 08:52
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:


Fripp
Hackett
Latimer
Keith Cross (T2)
Richard Pinhas
John McLaughlin
Paul Rudolph
Phil Manznera
Gary Boyle
Michael Karoli
Frank Zappa
Gary Green
John Goodsall
Jan Akkerman
Danny Fischeler?(Popol Vuh)
Manuel Gottsching


Good selection!

Mine would be:
Howe (absolute Nr. 1)
Fichelscher
Gilmour
Hackett
Vlatko Stefanovski (LEB I SOL)
Fripp
Gottsching
Oldfield
Lifeson
Erkin Koray
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 08:44

1. Jimi Hendrix (Because there are guitarists and then there's Hendrix...)

2. Robert Fripp (Even though he wouldn't give me his damn autograph, I still admire his technique)

3. Frank Zappa (Most of his solos were IMPROVISED!! And they WORKED!!)

4. Justin Hayward (Niiights in Whiite Saaatiiin, baby!!)

5. Roger Hodgson (The reason Supertramp is considered halfway progressive)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 07:43
there are a lot of good guitarists...of course the BEST doesn't exist
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 07:41

Too many but a few of my favourites
In no particular order

Robert Fripp
Steve Hackett
Andrew Latimer
Keith Cross -T2
Richard Pinhas -Heldon
Roye Albrighton -Nektar
John McLaughlin
Steve Howe
Mel Galley - Trapeze
Paul Rudolph - Pink Fairies/Deviants
Steve Hillage
Phil Manzanera
Randy California
Anthony Phillips
Allan Holdsworth
Gary Boyle - Isotope/Brian Auger
Michael Karoli - Can
Frank Zappa
Ollie Halsall
Gary Green
John Goodsall
Mike Oldfield
Jan Akkerman
Danny Fischelschler? -Popol Vuh/Gila
Manuel Gottsching


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 04:08
  1. Steve Hackett (Genesis Era)
  2. Andy Latimer (Camel)
  3. Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
  4. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
  5. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
  6. John McLaughlin (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
  7. Frank Zappa (Frank Zappa)
  8. Dave Clempson (Colosseum)
  9. Allan Holdsworth (UK, Gong, Solo)
  10. Steve Howe (The Yes)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 03:12
Hackett

Most successful solo artist out of all of them IMO.

oh and ZAPPA

we always forget about zappa!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 03:06
Steve Howe
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 02:45

Ahh yes I forgot about Mr. Roye Albrighton he's definitely high up on my list as well.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2005 at 02:41
John Petrucci.
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