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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 14:07
I think that it depends on the live album.  There are plenty of live albums where all the bands play are their greatest hits.  In the case of Rush, the bonus of a live album is that you also get a Neil Peart drum solo which doesn't appear on the regular albums or greatest hits albums.  The thing with a live album is that many times they are double albums and therefore cover more songs than a one CD greatest hits package.  There are some decent 2 CD greatest hit packages like Rush's Chronicles or their Retrospective, although one but not both would be required, since they cover most of the same songs.  Personally, I was introduced to some of the best known prog bands by greatest hits packages, and then expanded from there.  I bought the Best of ELP, Classic Yes, and 20 Years of Jethro Tull, liked what I heard and expanded to the rest of their discographies.  Granted I had heard many of the songs on the radio but having the songs on one disc  kind of put it together for me that they were good bands.  Sure the discs aren't "representative" of the band's most proggiest tracks, but most of those are too long to put onto a compilation album like that.  Box sets work better to this extent because it exposes the listener to more songs but that is generally an expensive investment for a band that you might not know anything about.
 
Coming from me however, this post of mine doesn't mean much because I am an odd duck here on PA, who likes and sometimes prefers these prog bands poppier moments so I tend to enjoy the songs that appear on the greatest hits packages. 
 
Also, I agree to an extent with Finnforest's post regarding songs being taken out of their context on a greatest hits album and not having the correct flow of songs that the artist intended.  To me this is more obvious, obviously, in the case of concept albums where the album is telling a story and the song is only part of the story.  But the greatest hits album still gives a newbie the chance to hear the song to see if it sounds like something worth fully pursuing. 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 14:05
Originally posted by mellors mellors wrote:


When Im trying to get into a band I tend to listen to their most popular album first (looking at Lastfm or this website) as this tends to be the best mix between quality and accessibility. Hasnt failed me too badly so far. I usually only buy greatest hits of artists I would listen to once in a while rather than frequently.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 14:00
When Im trying to get into a band I tend to listen to their most popular album first (looking at Lastfm or this website) as this tends to be the best mix between quality and accessibility. Hasnt failed me too badly so far. I usually only buy greatest hits of artists I would listen to once in a while rather than frequently.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 13:42
^ agreed ... live albums would be the best 'introduction' especially in prog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 13:40
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Pink Floyds Echoes and Queensryche's Greatest Hits make for very good compilations that give a strong feel for the band as an overall, rather than just the obvious few songs.


Seconded (I've got both albums).  However, in my humble opinion live albums can be a much more effective way to get introduced to a band. To make a recent example, Caravan's wonderful The Show of Our Lives, which features live recordings from 1969 to 1975 (the heyday of the band's career), is even better than a simple "Greatest Hits". Rush's numerous live albums are also an excellent means of introduction to the band's vast output.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 13:18
I like the King Crimson "greatest hits" collections.  They have a good overview of the different stages of the band.  Kansas' greatest hits makes me puke(the boxed set is much better).  Styx had two greatest hits packages because they were on two different labels during the 70's.   The Styx "sound" that we know an love really did not come to being until their third album called "The Serpent is Rising."   I do not own a lot of greatest hits packages if I own the band's complete collection.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 13:14
Black Sabbath the very best of.... It's all Ozzy era (the best) and having almost the two first albums (the best ones) complete. It's great. Pink Floyd Echoes very good too.
I think Greatest Hits will never be good cause being Greatest Hits, meaning AOR songs from the band mainly. Except if you're talking of pop bands.

The best of.. alwawys depend, there maybe some very good like Sabbath's and other really bad like Genesis. And others that depends what you're looking for like Yes 35th anniversary, I think it's good cause it briefs all their period. Okay there not maybe some very good but still has some.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 13:04
I believe "best ofs" are always the wrong approach to getting to know a band because they are not the artistic vision of the band and don't convey the songs in proper context.
 
Instead of buying an illigitimate release that cannot convey the full content of any one given album theme, musically or lyrically, just do this.  If you can't afford to buy many titles by a band, do a little research and you can quickly find out what fans consider the "definitive" releases by each band.  It's not tough to do.  Then, buy one of their good albums.  You'll get a legit piece of art, and you'll find out whether you like the band. 
There is no need to buy some hodgepodge of songs that have no organic relation to each other, other than record company doofs assured they were the chosen tracks on the radio. 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:13
Pink Floyds Echoes and Queensryche's Greatest Hits make for very good compilations that give a strong feel for the band as an overall, rather than just the obvious few songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:06
Doesn't King Crimson have a great one?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2008 at 10:56
Reading the Kansas and Toto topic I saw that some of the members had trouble with Kansas due to the bad introduction to the band (the old Best of Kansas). This topic wants to colect references from the members about good and bad "best ofs" albums (no boxes) or, if there's no other reference available, live albums that can summarize to the newbie the style and work of a band.
 
The first examples that come to mind:
 
Good: Styx's "Greatest Hits" (show how is the band's sound - if you don't like it you probably won't like anything more from Styx).
 
 
Bad: Pink Floyd's "A collection of great dance songs" - although absolute gems as "Shine on...", "Money" and "Sheep" are present, the whole period from 1967 to 1972 receives a single mention with OoTD.
 
In my case I was lucky to insist with Pink Floyd and discover that the 67-73 era was my favourite. With Styx I feel a real taste of the band with the collection mentioned above, and listenig to their albums only show me that for my tastes the GH is all that I need.
 
I'd apreciatte suggestions about the contemporary "prog giants" as I'm not well informed of what is really great about them (only post-rock and some electronic things touch me from the 90's and 00's prog).
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