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Era V.
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 14:20 |
Well, they found one more in me. I finally went out and bought some PT when I was in Paris. Picked up FOABP. It's good, very good.
But to be honest from the gushing praise they get I have to admit being somewhat underwhelmed...maybe I started with the wrong album?
The solo by Lifeson is a great touch though!
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Raff
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 11:12 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
The T wrote:
But of course with me they CAN'T be the new DT.... |
And let's hope there is never another one. One is quite enough.
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Post of the decade!!!! *runs and hides from Teo's wrath*
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 10:52 |
The T wrote:
But of course with me they CAN'T be the new DT.... |
And let's hope there is never another one. One is quite enough.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:36 |
I liked Deadwing when I was first majorly getting into Prog, but now it does nothing for me. I've not even heard Fear of a Blank Planet, except for Anaesthetise and like most people posting in this thread, I find them quite average in terms of prog. However, they're a great alternative rock band and they ave a lot of talent, so they're not average in that context.
By the way, be nice to the newcomer, he may have said something that you disagree with, but that is no reason to call him names.
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:29 |
MusicalSalmacis wrote:
Simply put, they aren't this thread is the proof that most on this site find the band pretty average.
I like PT, but I don't think they are that special. If you compare them to alternative rock bands though, they rock!
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Compare them to The Strokes or Radiohead.
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MusicalSalmacis
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 03:33 |
Simply put, they aren't this thread is the proof that most on this site find the band pretty average.
I like PT, but I don't think they are that special. If you compare them to alternative rock bands though, they rock!
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Logan
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:28 |
Phil�as wrote:
Real Paradox wrote:
I realy think Porcupine tree is more in the category of Alternative Rock , that of Prog...but of course thats my opinion.... |
My opinion too.
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Which is a reason to find it rather surprising that it is such a popular band here at a site devoted to so-called prog for so-called progheads. I find it rather more surprising that Porcupine Tree is so
very popular amongst progressive music aficionados than it not being
that popular amongst the general, more mainstream music community. As
has been noted, it's one of the most popular modern bands at this site
and gets a great deal of attention. Fear of a Blank Planet is
the top-rated album of 2007 at this site, has a considerable lead in
the non-collab top 2007 albums, and will probably be the top Collab
album of 2007. Deadwing was the collaborator's top album for 2005. Perhaps they more obviously catered to a Prog audience before and people have remained loyal, or maybe it's acted as something of a gateway band for many (for people who don't know a lot of Prog and may have, after discovering this site, subsequently ventured into more adventurous and esoteric territory). Why is PT as popular amongst die-hard progheads as it is? Is it an easier band to get into for those into classic prog than most modern progressive bands? OF course it's going to have more appeal to people into, say, Progressive Metal than a band such as Rational Diet or whatever, and while the guys from PT aren't that young, perhaps the music has more youthful appeal than, say, Robert Wyatt (whose latest is quite poppy, but in a mature way).
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 14:08 |
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Philéas
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:48 |
Real Paradox wrote:
I realy think Porcupine tree is more in the category of Alternative Rock , that of Prog...but of course thats my opinion.... |
My opinion too.
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 12:27 |
Lol, and what a tent this is!!:)
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EnglishAssassin
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 12:27 |
I think it would be fairly safe to say they sit somewhere between the standard definitions of modern prog and alt rock. It does surprise me that they haven't transformed their critical success into more of a commercial breakthrough, especially given the popularity of other kinda-prog-sorta-alt-rock bands like Muse.
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micky
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 11:58 |
^ well me likes your opinoin. Never been sold on their prog quotient.. but hey.... they fooled someone enough to add them.. so we all are happy under the big tent that is PA's hahahhaha
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 11:53 |
I can't trash Porcupine Tree, But i cannot say they are something special...They have nice lyrics, it is also important, although, I realy think Porcupine tree is more in the category of Alternative Rock , that of Prog...but of course thats my opinion....
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horse feathers
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 00:02 |
I saw PT when they came to town.....the show was great but it didn't turn me into a big fan.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: January 19 2008 at 20:06 |
stonebeard wrote:
Porcupine Tree's music from 1990-1998 is my favorite band. It's Pink Floyd but darker, more rhythmic, and more trance.
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Of this band's music, this is the era that I dislike the least.
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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rushaholic
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Posted: January 19 2008 at 19:53 |
I think PT is a fantastic band. Never dull or boring. Certainly not over-rated.
And what is wrong with having way too many fans. Silly comment.
2008 will be another great year for the band and especially for Steven Wilson.
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micky
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Posted: January 19 2008 at 19:06 |
stonebeard wrote:
Porcupine Tree's music from 1990-1998 is my favorite band. It's Pink Floyd but darker, more rhythmic, and more trance.
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definitely my favorite era of the group...
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stonebeard
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Posted: January 19 2008 at 17:37 |
Porcupine Tree's music from 1990-1998 is my favorite band. It's Pink Floyd but darker, more rhythmic, and more trance.
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jplanet
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Posted: January 19 2008 at 17:31 |
I saw them two years ago at Town Hall in NYC...the place was fairly packed, but not sold-out, and everyone remained seated. Then I just saw them recently at much bigger Beacon Theater, and the place was MOBBED, with everyone in the orchestra section standing throughout the entire show.
I'd say they're the most successful of the new prog and prog-related bands out there.
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Fritha
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Posted: January 19 2008 at 17:23 |
The T wrote:
By the way: I saw them live and they're great, even though Wilson is not charismatic |
Charisma comes in many guises... to me SW has a unique charisma for sure. I for one can't take my eyes off him when he performs! Quite possibly the hottest music nerd ever, lol.
And to the person, who dreaded the day Muse fans discover PT, well, there is a rather active thread for the band on the (most popular?) Muse forum
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