Progressive copy cats

Dick Heath wrote: valravennz wrote: maani wrote: Actually come to think of it - I would have to agree to some extent with what you have said. As I reply,  I am listening to Porcupine Tree who do have some Pink Floyd in there as well as "Grunge". I've got/heard 7 Porcupine Tree albums, and perhaps the earlier you go back more the Floyd can be heard - but grunge???????????????????????? My reference point for grunge is Nirvana (the Seattle one, not the psychedelic Uk one), tell me where to listen?

Hiya - Yep "Grunge" is associated with Nirvana (Seattle). Other bands included Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Mother Love Bone all out of that area. I used the term "Grunge" as that is the label given to those bands. I noticed that some cords used reminded me of some Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains - Listen to Alice in Chains "Jar of Flies" and Pearl Jam's "Vs". I refer now specifically to Porcupine Tree's "The sound of muzak" and "waiting phase one".

 Not for one minute would I label Porcupine Tree a "Grunge" band, but to my ears, there is some influence there - the more melodic parts of grunge.

I personally never cared for Nirvana's music. Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam were IMHO the only groups that were worth listening to.

Marillion, Pendragon, IQ, Rael and 90% of Neo Prog' are heavily influenced by Genesis.

Iván

Zero the hero wrote: While were on the subject of Pink Floyd.Don't we all love the scissors sisters for totally destroying a perfectly good Floyd track.

Errrm... (cringing) - I actually don't think it's that bad. Pink Floyd quite up-beat - it's a pleasant change. However, The Scissors Sisters are "off this planet" and I like their weirdness

Reed Lover wrote: Zero the hero wrote: Who do we think is the most copied Style of the big name prog bands.ie:ELP,Yes,Genesis ? ELP most definitely-I mean they virtually invented elevator music didnt they? Actually Yes probably. I can hear Yes' influence in the modern prog-metal bands,and certainly Rush,Styx and Starcastle have increasing degrees of Yes influence.

if ELP make elevator music then i sure would like to be stuck in elevators quite often.

The one thing about ELP is that boring is not a word you would most likely use about them.Starcastle are a better band than Yes ever where at least starcaslte write tunes..

maani wrote: I'm surprised at what I'm hearing.  If I had to name the band whose influence I hear more broadly than any other in more neo-prog and neo-neo-prog - including prog metal, and including non-english-speaking prog - there is absolutely no question it is Pink Floyd.  Sure, there is broad influence from Genesis, Yes, Moody Blues, King Crimson, ELP, and even Gentle Giant (more than most people know, especially in non-english-speaking prog).  But Pink Floyd remains without question the broadest influence in the broadest number, and even types, of bands.  I hear it in bands as disparate as Marillion, The Church, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, Ayreon, IQ, Pendragon, Arena - I could go on and on. Peace.

Actually come to think of it - I would have to agree to some extent with what you have said. As I reply,  I am listening to Porcupine Tree who do have some Pink Floyd in there as well as "Grunge". Ayreon is most notably Pink Floyd influenced ( I read where he would love to have David Gilmour participate in one of his projects!). Pink Floyd's influence is far ranging but then so is Yes. How about a 50/50 split

I'm surprised at what I'm hearing.  If I had to name the band whose influence I hear more broadly than any other in more neo-prog and neo-neo-prog - including prog metal, and including non-english-speaking prog - there is absolutely no question it is Pink Floyd.  Sure, there is broad influence from Genesis, Yes, Moody Blues, King Crimson, ELP, and even Gentle Giant (more than most people know, especially in non-english-speaking prog).  But Pink Floyd remains without question the broadest influence in the broadest number, and even types, of bands.  I hear it in bands as disparate as Marillion, The Church, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, Ayreon, IQ, Pendragon, Arena - I could go on and on.

Peace.

Yes and Genesis are the most copied bands.ELP had their seventies 'clone' Trimuvirat but very few bands have tried to copy their format of drums,keyboards,bass and NO lead guitar.UK did it for one album (Danger Money) and latterly Arsnova have the same format although both bands steered away from being ELP copycats and had or have their own style.

I would say the most cribbed peice of music is Genesis 'Squonk'.I hear that a lot in modern (post 1980) prog.