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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2007 at 14:12
ozzy.. you can strike Hansson and Karlson off your list... they have been approved for addition.. and will be added soon. Working on the bio as we speak actually

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I've just wrote some of the albums of the bands' I mentioned before (be careful! I don't write all of their albums here ! Only these which I've listened to):

1.Trikolon - "Cluster"(1969)
2.McPhee - "McPhee"(1972)
3.Hansson & Karlsson - "Monument"(1967), "Rex"(1968), "Man at the moon"(1969)
4.Sixty Nine - "Circle of the crayfish"(1972)
5.Attila - "Attila"(1970)
6.Hardin & York - "Tomorrow Today"(1969), "World's Smallest Big Band"(1970), "For the world"(1971), "Live"(1994, 1969 recorded)
7.Twogether - "A couple of times"(1973)
8.Bodkin - "Bodkin"(1972)
9.Food Brain - "Social Gathering"(1970)
10.Odyssey - "Setting Forth"(1969)
11.Pesky Gee - "Exclamation Mark"(1969) (this is proto-Black Widow)
12.Weed - "Weed"(1971) (one of the Ken Hensley's early project made with German band "Virus")
13.Tyburn Tall - "Tyburn Tall"(1972)
14.8 Days in April - "The Hamburg Scene"(1972)
15.Spectrum - "Part One"(1971), "Milesago"(1971)
16.Spooky Tooth - "Spooky Two"(1969), "Ceremony"(1970)
17.Freedom's Children - "Astra"(1970)
18.Brian Auger & The Trinity - "Open"(1967), "Definitely What"(1968), "Streetnoise"(1969), "Befour"(1970)
19.Harsh Reality - "Heaven and hell"(1969)
20.Polyphony - "Without Introduction"(1971)
21.Show of hands - "Formerly Anthrax"(1970)
22.Ford Theatre - "Trilogy for the masses"(1969)
23.Hunger - "Strictly from Hunger"(1969)
24.Valhalla - "Valhalla"(1969)
25.Pacific Sound - "Forget your dream!"(1972)
26.Pugh's Place - "West One"(1969)
27.Andromeda - "Andromeda"(1970)
28.P205 - "P205"(1975), "Vivat Progressio - Pereat Mundus "(1978)
29.Electra - "Adaptionen"(1976)
30.Epsilon - "Epsilon"(1971), "Move on"(1972)
31.Faithful Breath - "Fading Beauty"(1974)
32.Head Machine - "Orgasm"(1969) (another Ken Hensley's project)
33.Mammut - "Mammut"(1971)
34.The Norman Haines Band - "Den Of Iniquity"(1971)
35.Titanic - "Titanic"(1971), "Eagle Rock"(1973), "Ballad of a rock'n' roll loser"(1975)
36.Yasushi Ishii - "Hellsing Original Soundtrack"(2003)
37.Phluph - "Phluph"(1968)

I hope that now you won't have any problems with finding these bands in internet. If not I will try to search for some links later.
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2007 at 13:54
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Just checked Trikolon and sounds more like Psych with Classical influences, they are very good, the Hammond is outstanding but not sure if they belonmg in Symphonic.
 
Hey man this band only released 150 albums in LP format.
 
Can't find anything but ambiguous info about Twogether and nothing about electra, now digging for Sixty Nine.
 
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Careful Ivan, you're getting into Art Rock's business. Shocked
Ozzy made a very easy, but sufficient (for now) idea where every band should go.
We already started checking Twogether and Sixty Nine, both accountable for Heavy Prog. Tongue
And we'll probably deal with every band ozzy mentioned under one of the three AR genres. Wink

Out of interest, did you find any music for Twogether? Except a blog whose link is expired, we've found nothing and it looks like a desperate thing, the band's a complete rarity.
 
Well, that leaves us without any band from the list except maybe poliphony.
 
I will ask Bob (ClemofNazatreth) to check it.
 
BTW: Attila released an album past 1969, so if we go with the guidelines it's impossible to add them in Proto Prog.
 
Maybe in Prog Related, but for all I know it's weird cacophony and nothing more, now it would be time for the Adms to decide.
 
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2007 at 13:26
We've been doing research on some of those bands, and will be adding some of  them in the next few days. As regards Faithful Breath, we've got some info about them - and yes, we found that "FAding Beauty" is prog. However, the list is very long, and those things take their time. Thanks for the suggestions, though!
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Hey Ozzy is Attila USA that terrible band in which Billy Joel played?


Even Billy catalogued it as Psychedelic Bullsh!t, he's 50% right, becaus it's not a Psych album, its' pure Acid Rock or Proto bad Metal (to say something, cacophonic loud noise would be more exact), no relation with Prog and influenced nobody, their only studio album is considered by many as the worst album ever recorded.

I never believed there was something worst than Love Beach until I heard this album.

 

Sorry if I'm rude, but that's my honest opinion.

 

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Yes, I've just thought about this "Attila" with Joel . I see that you really don't like their album    , but anyway it doesn't change a thing that it should be inluded on PA as proto-prog even if it's not a good album. Anyway it's one of only few "duo-bands" (only keyboardist + percussionist) so it should be here maybe only as curiosity (btw I don't think that Attila is so bad, but you know I'm a Hammond-freak so organ-driven album can't be totally bad ).

According to Faithful Breath I can say one thing: listen to their album called "Fading Beauty" and you will know that this is truly progressive album & there are no metal inspirations, I can even say that it's very calm album.
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Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:

15.Spectrum (Australia) (Crossover Prog) 
 
Hey Ozzy Tom, how goes it?
 
Spectrum was one of those Australian bands I was getting the old "round to it" happening with, as well as The Master's Apprentices, Tamam Shud, Kahvas Jute, Ariel, Coloured Balls, Tully and Lobby Loyde.
 
I think the new heavy prog sub-genre suits TMA, Kahvas Jute, Coloured Balls & Lobby Loyde with their sort of blues meets head music leanings. Ariel and Tamam Shud are probably crossover. As for Tully, I am not really sure as I just can't get hold of any of their music without having to mortgage the house to buy an LP (except the OST to the Australian version of Hair featuring Tully + 4, which I have a copy of on the way).
  
Catch you in the ether!
 
Cheers,
 
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Edited by T.Rox - September 14 2007 at 08:44
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I'll add FOOF BRAIN to our team evaluation, thanks!
 
Maybe PATTO would be a good prog related act? Mostly famous bands seem to get into this genre, why not including some little obscurer bands there too? Ofcourse the more known one's are easier to be included as there are much data about them around.
 
Many bands mentioned in the list above were in Proto Prog genre. This is a genre which is not enlargened in very fast speed (not critizing this, just observing).
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Isotope 217 (post rock)
Imagine Tortoise in the style of their amazing TNT only with more jazz elements and alot free-er. Then again, its just some of the guys from Tortoise plus some jazz musisians, so I guess thats what it would have to sound like.
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Hey Ozzy is Attila USA that terrible band in which Billy Joel played?

Even Billy catalogued it as Psychedelic Bullsh!t, he's 50% right, becaus it's not a Psych album, its' pure Acid Rock or Proto bad Metal (to say something, cacophonic loud noise would be more exact), no relation with Prog and influenced nobody, their only studio album is considered by many as the worst album ever recorded.

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Attila is the name of a band featuring a young Billy Joel. Billy was a member of a band called the Hassles; he and the drummer, Jon Small, broke away from the Hassles and formed this duo. The instrumentation was mostly organ and drums, with Billy Joel also handling the bass lines with a keyboard, like the Doors' Ray Manzarek. Their creative partnership ended when Joel allegedly ran off with Small's wife. (LMAO LOL)

They released only one album, Attila, in 1970, later reissued by CBS Inc in 1985. Attila is often selected by critics and other music journalists as one of the worst rock album of all time; however, while not an easily accessible album, its unique jazz-metal fusion has become a cult favorite amongst Joel's fans. One track from the album, "Amplifier Fire, Part 1 (Godzilla)," appears on Joel's 2005 boxed set My Lives.

Track listing

  1. Wonder Woman 3:38
  2. California Flash 3:32
  3. Revenge is Sweet 4:00
  4. Amplifier Fire 7:39 (Part I - Godzilla; Part II - March of the Huns)
  5. Rollin' Home 4:52
  6. Tear This Castle Down 5:49
  7. Holy Moses 4:30
  8. Brain Invasion 5:41

 Personnel

  • Billy Joel: vocals, keyboard player, arranger-composer, Taurus
  • Jon Small: composer-arranger, drums, Capricorn
  • Glenn Evans: road manager and creator of the direct input of a Hammond organ to Marshall Amps.
 
I believe we should not only not include them, but find the way of burning the master tape, starting with the embarrasing cover with Billy Joel dressed as Hun in a meat market.
 
 
I never believed there was something worst than Love Beach until I heard this album.
 
Sorry if I'm rude, but that's my honest opinion.
 
Iván


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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ozzy - if there is something you think should/could be added in crossover.  PM me links to any samples available.  We don't get paid for this hahhaha...  if people feel strongly to have some groups added.. they need to give us something to go on.  


Micky, I suggest we all work on the bands that were mentioned under one of the three AR genres, because ozzy mentioned that he has trouble understanding what Heavy, Eclectic and Crossover individually mean, and I already signaled to him that he suggested for Symphonic or Crossover bands that are clearly Heavy. WinkWacko

So, we should probably check these bands as AR specialists, instead of Heavy, Ec. or Crossover specialists. LOL


sounds good to me Rico...with the varioius vacations we all have had LOL it will be nice to work together again.  I'm in....  I need some time to consider who to bring on to the crossover team.  You, Jesus, and David were no brainers. I haven't been around enough over the last months to have an idea about the next batch to bring into the team.
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ozzy - if there is something you think should/could be added in crossover.  PM me links to any samples available.  We don't get paid for this hahhaha...  if people feel strongly to have some groups added.. they need to give us something to go on.  


Micky, I suggest we all work on the bands that were mentioned under one of the three AR genres, because ozzy mentioned that he has trouble understanding what Heavy, Eclectic and Crossover individually mean, and I already signaled to him that he suggested for Symphonic or Crossover bands that are clearly Heavy. WinkWacko

So, we should probably check these bands as AR specialists, instead of Heavy, Ec. or Crossover specialists. LOL


Exactly! This is what we've already started doing. We'll allocate them to the right subgenre at the end of the screening.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ozzy - if there is something you think should/could be added in crossover.  PM me links to any samples available.  We don't get paid for this hahhaha...  if people feel strongly to have some groups added.. they need to give us something to go on.  


Micky, I suggest we all work on the bands that were mentioned under one of the three AR genres, because ozzy mentioned that he has trouble understanding what Heavy, Eclectic and Crossover individually mean, and I already signaled to him that he suggested for Symphonic or Crossover bands that are clearly Heavy. WinkWacko

So, we should probably check these bands as AR specialists, instead of Heavy, Ec. or Crossover specialists. LOL
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Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:



But I have admit again that I'm not sure what's the real difference between Crossover Prog and Eclectic Prog or even Heavy Prog 'cause they were called just art rock before .


Thought so. We've already started checking four or five bands; most are eligible for Heavy Prog, when in fact you wrote Crossover Prog!!. Confusing business, mr. Ozzy. Confused
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Just checked Trikolon and sounds more like Psych with Classical influences, they are very good, the Hammond is outstanding but not sure if they belonmg in Symphonic.
 
Hey man this band only released 150 albums in LP format.
 
Can't find anything but ambiguous info about Twogether and nothing about electra, now digging for Sixty Nine.
 
Iván


Careful Ivan, you're getting into Art Rock's business. Shocked
Ozzy made a very easy, but sufficient (for now) idea where every band should go.
We already started checking Twogether and Sixty Nine, both accountable for Heavy Prog. Tongue
And we'll probably deal with every band ozzy mentioned under one of the three AR genres. Wink

Out of interest, did you find any music for Twogether? Except a blog whose link is expired, we've found nothing and it looks like a desperate thing, the band's a complete rarity.
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Originally posted by The Rock The Rock wrote:

ozzy tom,
 
Boy I can relate to that!Bravo for your post!Clap
 
Here are a few other bands that should be on PA ,big freaking time;
 
-Electric Food(Germany)
-Asterix(Germany)
-Asia(USA)
-Electric Mud(Germany)
-Dull Knife(Germany)
-GOLDEN EARRING(Holland)
-Offenbach(Canada)
-Osmosis(USA)
-One(usa)
-Fred(Usa)
-Fuse(USA)
-Aut'Chose(Canada)
-Flower Travellin'Band(Japan)
-Starglow Energy(Swizerland)
-Viola Crayola(USA)
-Bloodrock(USA)
-American Tears(USA)
-Touch(USA)(not the 1969 band,a later one-1980)
 
And there is many more.I will try and come up with some.
 
Btw,you seem to know your prog.A lot of bands on your list,I know of,but some I don't.
 
Rock
 
 
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Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:

From time to time I find some prog bands which I can't find on this (probably the biggest) prog site. That's why I decided to write some bands which I think should be added here. Here is my list (I hope that it will be helpful for administrators to make this site even more complete):

1.Trikolon (Germany)
2.McPhee (Australia)
3.Hansson & Karlsson (Sweden)
4.Sixty Nine (Germany)
5.Attila (USA)
6.Hardin & York (USA)
7.Twogether (Germany)
8.Bodkin (England)
9.Food Brain (Japan)
10.Odyssey (USA)
11.Pesky Gee (England)
12.Weed (England-Germany)
13.Tyburn Tall (Germany)
14.8 Days in April (also known as solo Kravetz's project)(Germany)
15.Spectrum (Australia)
16.Spooky Tooth (England)
17.Freedom's Children (Republic of South Africa)
18.Brian Auger & The Trinity (England)
19.Harsh Reality (England)
20.Polyphony (USA)
21.Show of hands (USA)
22.Ford Theatre (USA)
23.Hunger (USA)
24.Valhalla (USA)
25.Pacific Sound (Switzerland)
26.Pugh's Place (Netherlands)
27.Andromeda (Germany)
28.P205 (Germany)
29.Electra (Germany)
30.Epsilon (Germany)
31.Faithful Breath (Germany)
32.Head Machine (England)
33.Mammut (Germany)
34.The Norman Haines Band (England)
35.Titanic (Norway)
36.Yasushi Ishii (Japan)

Anybody knows any other prog-bands not included on PA?
 
 
if you send a biography, discography, some mp3 samples and a 200 word statement explaining why each of these bands are Prog and should be included they will have a very good chance of being considered! Big%20smile
 
 
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2007 at 01:20
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ozzy - if there is something you think should/could be added in
crossover.  PM me links to any samples available.  We don't
get paid for this hahhaha...  if people feel strongly to have some
groups added.. they need to give us something to go on.  


True, very hard to go on band names alone. Album names and group members help quite a bit.

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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2007 at 23:23
ozzy - if there is something you think should/could be added in crossover.  PM me links to any samples available.  We don't get paid for this hahhaha...  if people feel strongly to have some groups added.. they need to give us something to go on.  
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Hansson & Karlsson will be added by Micky when he gets a new Internet connection, which should be very soon. He was about to add them when I was still in the USA with him, but then he got sidetracked by more serious matters. I'll remind him to go ahead with the addition when his connection is operative.


thanks....  I need to get back to that....  I had the bio written on your computer...  I guess I'll start over with that hahahhah
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Originally posted by Marcos Marcos wrote:

how much time does it cost to add a band on PA? I've sent a submission about 6 months ago...


It can take a while - we have a huge amount of bands to get through. Send me a PM with the name of the band and I'll check up on it for you.
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