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proghairfunk
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Posted: July 25 2007 at 00:55 |
As much as I love Hendrix, I have to say no. I'd say he influenced the Proto prog bands more than the prog bands. So in a roundabout way yes? I think I'm just trying to stand up for him. So no. I guess...
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Dim
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Posted: July 25 2007 at 00:35 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
This site is named Prog Archives, an abbreviation of Progressive Archives so I would like to welcome The Jimi Hendrix Experience on this site. I am looking forward to review it among reviews about previous additions like Iron Maiden, Talk Talk, Osibisa, JM Jarre and Magnum, I think The Jimi Hendrix Experience their progressive ideas on Electric Ladyland will be superior in comparison with those aforementioned 'progressive' bands |
Maiden is very progressive, they're guitar playing is very noodly, they show great amounts of technical talent and they're lyrics are much more sophisticated than the average metal bands. Besides, everyone in Maiden was actually an avid prog listener, except Dickonson.
Jimi, can only boast guitar playng which I dont consider very good. IMO
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JesusisLord
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 23:55 |
This all started a while back with the inclusion of Queen, ( to this day, I cannot understand what they are doing in the Progarchives.) The floodgate had been opened and it was then noted that the progarchives would soon have to change it's name to the Rockarchives.It was that mistake that has led to this confusion. Does Hendrix belong? Well, if The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane etc. belong then so does Jimi!
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And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 23:13 |
sheeves wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
even Jimi's most 'progressive' work on Axis and Ladyland was still acid/blues... No |
the thing is, acid is part of psychedelia
and psychedelic rock is in progarchives, i guess i don't know what prog is any more, and from now on i probably won't care
and like i said, procol harum sounds more like pure blues to me than anything else |
the psychedelic movement helped contribute to Prog, but Hendrix's small amount of progressive psych material didn't have the same impact on Prog as that of, say, Pink Floyd or Jefferson Airplane. I for one thought the Doors should never have been added to PA...
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 23:08 |
This site is named Prog Archives, an abbreviation of Progressive Archives so I would like to welcome The Jimi Hendrix Experience on this site. I am looking forward to review it among reviews about previous additions like Iron Maiden, Talk Talk, Osibisa, JM Jarre and Magnum, I think The Jimi Hendrix Experience their progressive ideas on Electric Ladyland will be superior in comparison with those aforementioned 'progressive' bands
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sheeves
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 23:05 |
Atavachron wrote:
even Jimi's most 'progressive' work on Axis and Ladyland was still acid/blues... No |
the thing is, acid is part of psychedelia
and psychedelic rock is in progarchives, i guess i don't know what prog is any more, and from now on i probably won't care
and like i said, procol harum sounds more like pure blues to me than anything else
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 22:58 |
even Jimi's most 'progressive' work on Axis and Ladyland was still acid/blues... No
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sheeves
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 22:32 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No. But this is just a personal opinion ... the objective criteria to tell non-prog psychedelic apart from prog psychedelic still elude me.
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Thank you for defending me Mike
anyways, i did not know there was such a thing as progressive psychdelic
I saw the psychedelic section, and thought, Jimi Hendrix is psychedelic, so why isn't he in the psychedelic section
anyways, I am confused i guess by certain additions
also, to the people saying he plays blues, so does procol harum
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Dim
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 20:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
meinmatrix wrote:
Jimi plays blues.
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Like nobody played it before ...
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Stevie ray vaughn is probably 80 times better though...
I would rather see stevie hear then Jimi
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progismylife
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 19:23 |
Shakespeare wrote:
progismylife wrote:
Hendrix is not prog nor will he ever be.
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I think 'nor will he ever be' is unneeded in this case.
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(because he's dead)
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That is what I was getting at.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 19:18 |
progismylife wrote:
Hendrix is not prog nor will he ever be.
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I think 'nor will he ever be' is unneeded in this case. .. (because he's dead)
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Philéas
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 18:09 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No. But this is just a personal opinion ... the objective criteria to tell non-prog psychedelic apart from prog psychedelic still elude me.
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Seconded.
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micky
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 18:04 |
Hirgwath wrote:
Jimi Hendrix did tour with Pink Floyd, which lends him some credibility.
However...if Jimi Hendrix was included, then that could open the flood gates for all of the random (great) guitarists in the world (Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, etc.).
And Hendrix is more bluesy than nearly any progressive rock is (it's already been established that he plays *the blues*, and of course we can't forget he was making forays into funk), and his lyrics are not very progressive either.
The "Jimi Henrix Question" is a confusing one.
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what's confusing about HELL NO!!! btw...have you listened to Jeff Beck? Of course he is great... but not random at all... he was a good inclusion here.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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ProgBagel
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 18:00 |
No, hell no.
He is a classic rock guitarist, a blues player.
He is great, not prog.
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Dean
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 17:42 |
Jeff''s already here - Clapton is the only ex-Yardbird not to have made it into the PA, but that still does not mean that Hendrix should be included.
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What?
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Hirgwath
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 17:36 |
Jimi Hendrix did tour with Pink Floyd, which lends him some credibility.
However...if Jimi Hendrix was included, then that could open the flood gates for all of the random (great) guitarists in the world (Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, etc.).
And Hendrix is more bluesy than nearly any progressive rock is (it's already been established that he plays *the blues*, and of course we can't forget he was making forays into funk), and his lyrics are not very progressive either.
The "Jimi Henrix Question" is a confusing one.
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micky
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 17:30 |
queenlerxst wrote:
I recently traded in my Hendrix albums for some prog ones.... |
hahhaha a big hell no from me... for reasons that have been explained numerous times every time this subject comes up when a group is added that someone doesn't agree with.
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queenlerxst
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 17:27 |
I recently traded in my Hendrix albums for some prog ones....
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 17:25 |
No! Stop the madness!
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febus
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 17:18 |
I think very soon the owners of this site will have to decide if they stay prog or go all the way cover all the rock field.
Jefferson Airplane, BS & T, DOORS, the Who, Led Zep and other bands never mentioned before in a prog conversation have been added to this site and i think the thin line separating the 2 genres is becoming very blurry now.
If you have Jefferson airplane, why not Grateful Dead, Quicksilver messenger service, Moby Grape or other rock-stoned californian bands?
Blood Sweat & tears? why not Chicago, Malo or Al Kooper solo?
The moment of truth will come soon.
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