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SoundscapeMN 
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Joined: January 14 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 68 |
 Posted: June 17 2007 at 01:53 |
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knowing their fanbase..it's very divided on which album is the best, favorite, etc..EL CIELO artistically is extremely thought out and finely crafted. I mean it's based on a Salvador Dali painting for freaking sake.
Also the production is 2nd to none. Why do you think it came out in a 5.1 format in the 1st place?? Not to mention the fact it synchronizes with ETERNAL SUNSHINE..lol |
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THE_POLE
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Joined: June 29 2006 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 198 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 21:53 |
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In my opinion Leitmotif was great,and definately progressive. The
problem is that they've gone downhill since then. El Cielo was kinda
boring and catch without arms was barely listneable. But Leitmotif is
one of the most unique and interesting albums i've heard.
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GoldenSpiral
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 20:28 |
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Once again, it's the "progressive" vs. "prog" thing...
For some reason I think dredg is amazing. The first time i heard Catch Without Arms I hated it, but they really grew on me and if you listen carefully their music is very complex and intricately layered. |
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Philéas
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Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 19:00 |
I share your opinion. I think dredg should be moved to Prog Related. |
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Ghandi 2
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Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 18:55 |
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They're not going to be kicked out, so these discussions are fruitless. My advice is, if you don't think they're prog or even good, just ignore them.
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Asyte2c00
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Joined: January 15 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2099 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 17:25 |
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El Cielo has its moments, but Leitmotif is flawless.
Its what got me into them in the first place
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Tristan Mulders
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Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 17:03 |
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I don't care actually.. I know there's quite a few people who wouldn't have bothered to listen to them if they WEREN'T included here!
 And they are definitely worth a listen or two!
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Interested in my reviews?
You can find them HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 15:57 |
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Dredg is prog, alternative has means of making a prog expression (not every such music, of course, but some).
Art Rock Scout's word!  |
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 15:43 |
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No prog in my ears
To be honest I still dont get all the fuzz about them, I have El Cielo and I find it kinda boring |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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SoundscapeMN
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Joined: January 14 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 68 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 14:42 |
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they are arguably as "Progressive" as any band out there today. And they do have elements of Progressive Rock without question.
but more of the point is..they're a band that appeal to fans of Prog and plain and simple, a band well worth checking out! |
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moebius
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Joined: September 16 2006 Status: Offline Points: 160 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 13:58 |
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I think the main reason is Leitmotif. Great, beautiful, simple album with full developed concept throughout all songs. El Cielo is amazing too, but Leitmotif is the gem.
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chamberry
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 12:47 |
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Their Catch Without Arms album is their most alternative rock album in their discography, but El Cielo has some bits of prog in it. I kind of agree with you here. I really like El Cielo, but I don't see it as proggy as I used to.
Edited by chamberry - June 16 2007 at 12:49 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21491 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 12:46 |
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El Cielo is a real gem ... it's surely not prog rock in a Yes or Genesis sense, but it fully deserves to be listed here.
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Snow Dog
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 12:43 |
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According to some arguments I have seen, it depends on which albums you hear.
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Winand007
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Joined: January 03 2007 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 12:42 |
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I don't know why Dredg is on this site, cause they aren't prog at all, they're just alternative
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