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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:15
Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

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1. Plague of you know who - VdGG Whom? Voldemort Wink?
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[/QUOTE 3. Meurglys III by Van Der Graaf Generator- to start with a fugue and end with a reggae with some of the greatest jazz - rock inside and tasty lyrics - these guys are crazier than Einstein with Feynman combined

spot on, Raphael! I couldn't put it better myself


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:03
Originally posted by grahawk grahawk wrote:

I find some epics quite tiresome. Some have a good shorter song trying to get out. Thick as a Brick is a great 12 minute song, so still quite epic like, but rather loses it as a whole album.

 
1. Ricochet - Tangerine Dream  70's electronica at it's very best.
2. Van Der Graff Generator - Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild. Admittedly after 15 minutes this gets very tiresome but the first 15 minutes are great. I've edited my version.
3. Neu - Forever. Is thirteen minutes long enough? A one or two chord track proving that repetition can be a very good thing and not remotely tiresome.
4. Echoes - Pink Floyd. A great song hiding in some great instrumental passages. So….it’s great.
5. Medicine Man (live) (Live EP, Gone to Earth re-release version  – Barclay James Harvest. Rather short again at 12 minutes, but stuffed full of  great rhythm guitar, lead guitar and keyboards.


I vehemently disagree. "Meurglys III" does not get tiresome after 15 minutes. on the contrary, I could listen endlessly to the crazy things Hammill comes up with on his guitar throughout the closing part. and it is a very cool reggae too. I simply love it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:40
Top Five Epics

Awaken – YES at their absolute most polished and balanced
Close to the Edge – YES at their most amazing and unpredictable.
Fall of the House of Usher – ALAN PARSONS PROJECT. Orchestra moving into electronic instruments, classical mixing and giving way to rock, moods being toyed with by all! Captures all the drama and angst of the story!
Dogs— FLOYD. Amazing acoustic guitars and effects, powerful singing and message

Supper’s Ready. G … Enough said. I give in.

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Hergest Ridge – MIKE OLDFIELD. What a beautiful, seemless piece of music.
Tab in the Ocean – NEKTAR. Roy can send shivers with the best of them, song after song, album after album.
Starless – KC. What a song!
Can You Hear Me? Or Trip to the Fair – RENAISSANCE. Annie et al. must be on this list. (Tout or Camp?)
The Icon – UTOPIA. Love the interplay of the three keyboardists with Todd.
Hamburger Concerto – FOCUS. Jan, Bert, and Thijs at their best. I love the playful humor of this band!
The Romantic Warrior— RETURN TO FOREVER. Perhaps not “epic” enough but these guys can play! One of the most amazing lineup of musicians ever assembled at their very best melodically and very accessible.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2008 at 18:05
Well that's a hard one!!
 
I think Thick as a Brick is the top 1 of prog epics.
Brain Salad Surgey also is a very good one.
King Kong of FZ is one of my favorites.
Genesis Supper Ready's
Tales of Topographic Oceans
 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 21:18
Close To The Edge - Yes
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Tarkus - ELP
A Change Of Seasons - Dream Theater
Heaven And Hell - Vangelis
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 18:58
1. Dark Star - The Grateful Dead
Words cant describe the power and subtle beauty of this free-jazz workout by the Dead. Listen to the guitar solos at 10 and 18 min to learn why Garcia is the only artist who can truly make the guitar speak. Not progressive in the strictest sense, but this guy still blows all other epics out of the water!

2. Supper's Ready - Genesis
A full course meal in every sense of the word Supper's Ready is Genesis's magnum opus and the greatest of the Symphonic Prog epics/mini-operas. The climax of this song sends me into Nirvana every time I listen to it. All you Yes fans have got it wrong, this is much better than Close to the Edge!

3. Echoes - Pink Floyd
Cant get farther without mentioning this gem. The beautifully serene and atmospheric Echoes transports you from the depths of the ocean to the depths of space all within its 25 min span. Love the lyrics, and the climactic guitar workout by Gilmour is fantastic.

4. The Requiem Symphony - Mozart
Lets pay tribute to the great great grandfather of all epics! Full of pomp, majesty and sheer grandiose power I hope that many prog-heads havnt forgotten where all the symphonic greats, past and present, have taken their influence from.

5. Halleluhwah - Can
I started getting into Krautrock and now after listening to Tago Mago for the billionth time I gotta pay tribute to this incredible tune. An organic funk beat drives this song through its entire +20 min, sometimes threatening to send it plunging into insanity but always keeping you hooked to the end. Sure to set heads bopping.
  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 11:08
I'll have a different list to my(and many others) obvious list.

1. Telegraph Road - Dire Straits (the final solo is f**king incredible)
2. Nine Feet Underground - Caravan (THE canterbury epic)
3. Lizard - King Crimson (amazing jazzy epic)
4. I am the Sun pt 1 - Flower Kings (incredible song)
5. A Passion Play pt 1 or 2 - Jethro Tull (ah, so underrated, it's a MAJESTIC epic)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 07:19
I find some epics quite tiresome. Some have a good shorter song trying to get out. Thick as a Brick is a great 12 minute song, so still quite epic like, but rather loses it as a whole album.

 
1. Ricochet - Tangerine Dream  70's electronica at it's very best.
2. Van Der Graff Generator - Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild. Admittedly after 15 minutes this gets very tiresome but the first 15 minutes are great. I've edited my version.
3. Neu - Forever. Is thirteen minutes long enough? A one or two chord track proving that repetition can be a very good thing and not remotely tiresome.
4. Echoes - Pink Floyd. A great song hiding in some great instrumental passages. So….it’s great.
5. Medicine Man (live) (Live EP, Gone to Earth re-release version  – Barclay James Harvest. Rather short again at 12 minutes, but stuffed full of  great rhythm guitar, lead guitar and keyboards.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2008 at 18:34
VdGG - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - the best epic ever!
ELP - Karn evil 9
Jethro Tull - Thick as a brick
Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I - IX).
Rush - 2112
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 18:45
Hmm..

Close to the Edge - Yes just wins. No question
Tales from Topographic Oceans - See "Close to the Edge"
Divine Wings of Tragedy - The ethereal choir in the beginning followed by excepts from "Mars" by Gustav Holst really sets a killer mood for this epic. I recommend it to anyone who likes prog, prog metal, or good music.
2112 - I love Rush, but I'll be the first to say some of their stuff is just unlistenable. 2112, however, is the exact opposite. Never have 20 minutes gone by so fast than when I listen to this track. Good story, based of Anthem I think. Great intro to prog if you're just starting out.
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida- Ok, so maybe not prog.. But still some of the best music ever. The fuzz guitar, coupled with the killer rhythm section, and the organ that makes you believe you are sitting in some ic cathedral, it all is just a masterpiece from start to finish. No, none of them were really virtuosos or anything, but In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida really is something to be amazed about.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 14:03
Depends on exactly what you'd consider an epic, but:

1. Lady Fantasy - Camel
I love this song. An unforgettable theme and an explosion at the end rivalled only by the opening of Schizoid Man.
2. Telegraph Road - Dire Straits
I'm probably a little biased here, since this was really the song that got me into music, but I can't fault it. Scenic opening, strong and profound lyrics, Knopfler's excellent guitar additions. Sense of direction, considerable instrumental parts. Exactly what an epic should be.
3. Take A Pebble - ELP
I think this showcases just how versatile acoustic instruments can be. Seamless shifts in mood; interesting lyrics sung superbly by Lake; beautiful piano work. I love it.
4. Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
I'm sure someone else has already explained this much better than I can.
5. Les Porches Du Notre Dame - Maneige
I've recently discovered this. I'm particularly fond of the piano parts and the stunning jazzy ending. It gets better with every listen.

Supper's Ready, TAAB and The Musical Box deserve a mention, but I'm sure I've added them to plenty of favourites lists already.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 12:34
well this is one of my firsts post I ever write and I hope it wont be the last one.
 
1-Shine on you crazy diamond : Becouse is simple and extremely emotional , and also the fact that is dedicated to Syd makes it so unforgetable. I cant think of any other prog song that makes the listener jump off his seat just with four notes . Brillant
 
2-Epithaph: The basic mellotron - based prog ballad , also the lyrics made by sinfield are outstanding
 
3-And you and I : The outro speaks on its own
 
4-Lizard: This jazzy epic closes one of the most underrated and weird albums in the history of prog.
 
5-Starless : To give end to such a milestone as red was not an easy job , however fripp& co worked out this 12 minute song with beutiful sax sounds
 
Also I d like to think that Islands as a 40 minute epic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 10:23
1.Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons
2.Symphony X - The Odyssey
3.Symphony X - The Divine Wings Of Tragedy
4.Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond
5.King Crimson - Larks' Tongues In Aspic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2008 at 13:30

VdGG - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - the best epic ever!

Caravan - Nine feet Underground - best organ playing epic ever!
ELP - Karn evil 9 - best overblown rediculusly good epic ever!
Soft Machine - Facelift - the hendrix of the organ epic!
Hatfild and the north - Mumps: Your Majesty Is Like A Cream Donut (Quiet)/Lumps/Prenut... - more amazing organ playing yeeey!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2008 at 07:23
"Supper's Ready" was nothing but an imitation of "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (as even the members of Genesis admitted), and not even a really good one. VdGG were a lot more daring than Genesis. Not that I think that "Supper's Ready" is a bad song, but it is by far not as good as its reputation. But the majority of proggers are into symphonic, and so I am not surprised by the outcome. "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" is too dissonant in parts for the majority to be really appreciated.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2008 at 04:31
And I wouldn't be me if I didn't find an interesting ground to make another list of all of the posts so far. And that will be the best epic according to all the participants combined because I noticed many of the songs were mentioned pretty often and then a list like this makes sense I believe.
And the winner is ....    
1. Supper's ready - Genesis                           147 pts    43 times mentioned
2. Close to the edge - Yes                              141         40         "
3. Gates of delirium - Yes                                74          25         "
4. Tarkus - ELP                                               66          21         "
5. Echoes - Pink Floyd                                     62          21         "
6. Thick as a brick - Jethro Tull                         51          21          "
7. 2112 - Rush                                                51          17          "
8. Shine on you crazy diamond - Pink Floyd       47          18          "
9. Change of seasons - Dream Theater             45          13          "
10. A Plague of lighthouse keepers - VDGG       37          13          "
 
I think it's a significant outcome because Supper's ready is Genesis'only true (long) epic and still it beats all the rest also bands with more epics. Another (regrettable as far as I'm concerned) surprising fact is the low position of Shine on you crazy diamond. Seen by many people (also non proggers) as the best (epical) song ever. It just proves: nothing is predictable in life !
By the way: the points given may be slightly debatable because I gave no.1 5 points in each list, no.2 4 points etc. But if someone mentioned 8 songs f.i. I gave nrs. 6/8 also 1 point. (in case you wondered).
Leaves the question: is Supper's Ready the best SONG ever or just the best EPIC ? Maybe food for another topic ?
And last: the reviewer that came closest to the outcome is: ........ GASTON (page 1 below). Congrat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2008 at 10:22
Finally get the chance to give nrs. 11/15. My top 10 is in my profile. These are not really better or less I guess
 
11. Monsters & Men-Flower Kings
12. Western desert-Cairo
13. Devine wings of tragedy-Symphony X
14. Man of Nomadic Traits-Pendragon
15. Nine feet underground-Caravan/Moviedrome-Arena
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:35
1. Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I - IX). Glorious guitar/keyboards and poignant lyrics.
2. Genesis - Supper's Ready. My favourite band ever - period.
3. Yes - Awaken. Not a huge Yes fan but I love this track.
4. Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn (Parts 1 & 2). OK, the "Horseback" song is a bit naff but otherwise this is excellent soothing music.
5. Pink Floyd - Dogs. Roger lets rip lyrically and Dave wields his mighty axe. Excellent stuff.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2008 at 00:19
Marillion "This Strange Engine" - There's something different about this epic from the others. There's a grittiness to it during the first 1/3 or so. Then Rothery pulls off one of his best solos. Capped off by that emotional ending.

Genesis "Supper's Ready" - Exhibiting humor and wit, at it's very essence a powerful and troubling song at times. Absolute masterpiece.

Yes "Close To The Edge" - Like a blissful dream from which you never want to awaken. Very ethereal and imaginative.

Yes "The Gates Of Delerium" - I just remember being swept up the last time I listened to Relayer. I can just as easily be taken in by a piece that showcases beautiful melodies.

Camel "The Snowgoose" - I very much consider this an epic. A piece that brings you to the brink of shedding a tear or two over it's shear beauty. A masterpiece, as well.

Transatlantic "Duel With The Devil" - Beautifully constructed. Edges out "Stranger In Your Soul" just by a hair.

Transatlantic "Stranger In Your Soul" - I love the trade off of vocals between Morse, Stolt, Trewavas and Portnoy.

Spock's Beard "The Great Nothing" - Watching Morse be driven to tears while laying down the vocals (reference The Making Of V DVD) at the end. How could you not get caught up in it and appreciate what a master he is.

Marillion "Ocean Cloud" - Wonderfully produced whilst telling a compelling story. "Grendel" doesn't even come close to this song or "This Strange Engine".

Honorable Mention:
The Flowers Kings "Stardust We Are"
Neal Morse "The Conflict"
Transatlantic "All Of The Above"
Kansas "The Pinnacle"
Rush "The Camera Eye"
Frost* "Milliontown"
Dream Theater "Octavarium"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2008 at 13:33
Originally posted by Voidonaut Voidonaut wrote:

Soap Shop Rock- Amon Duul II: just way too far out, "Smoke! coming out of their eyes!, the sandy tigers are licking his hands." i love how they break down the groove so its real loose, and que a bunch of freaked out sh*t and then theyll bring the groove back in tight. Amon Duul II at their finest.

You misunderstood the lyrics; it is not "the sandy tigers" but "insanity tigers". Trust me; the lyrics are printed in the Amon Düül biography "Tanz der Lemminge" by Ingeborg Schober. But perhaps the lyrics are even more far out this way.


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