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Bern
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 11:13 |
THE LOST CHORD!
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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Philéas
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Posted: September 09 2006 at 07:46 |
It does not only make you look utterly uneducated, but also it scares
people away, people who actually can spell and who probably could help
you. It's really, really sad to see the horrible spelling of today's
youth (I'm one of them actually, but I'm an exception to the rule, it
seems).
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Leningrad
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 21:29 |
Pneubauer wrote:
How come no one talks about trashy books? There are just as many TERRIBLE books as there are video games and TV shows. Just because something is printed means it's automatically more mentally stimulating than watching an episode of Survivor?
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Books don't really get a lot of ads, as opposed to movies and TV that get advertised everywhere. People are stupid? Quite possibly.
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Pneubauer
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 18:25 |
I guess being anal about spelling comes with being a prog snob?  Many of us are using emoticons... most people I know who hate poor spelling dislike the use of emoticons just as much. The emoticons come hand in hand with the 'MSN spelling' thing (kewl, lol, Im gr8, etc.). Is it possible that you're all just being a bunch of hypocrites? I forget who mentioned it in this thread, but someone said something like 'Improper spelling doesnt give an air of respectability or trustworthiness or something like that' and asked 'what would someone think of a resume or essay filled with spelling and grammatical errors?' Well, these are two completely different situations. Sorry, but spelling errors in formal writing is one thing, but on an internet forum? As long as the writing is coherent, who cares? Another thing mentioned is the decline of reading books... While it is unfortunate that a lot of people are missing out on some great books, its not like there is nothing else out there... not EVERY television program is trash (even though it seems really trendy today to say so). Computer/Video games, despite being regularly dismissed as time consuming trash that rot children's minds and force them to commit violent acts, can be much more than just mindless 'shoot em up games'. There are many games that can stimulate the imagination just as much as many books do. How come no one talks about trashy books? There are just as many TERRIBLE books as there are video games and TV shows. Just because something is printed means it's automatically more mentally stimulating than watching an episode of Survivor?
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Padraic
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 09:29 |
Chameleon wrote:
It's not cool to be smart anymore.  |
Was it ever thus?
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JayDee
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 06:51 |
I tend to be sloppy at times.
Nobody's perfect.
But its no big deal, as long as I can understand it, it's alright.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 03:54 |
Geck0 wrote:
That's another gripe of mine; the use of cool words like "way". |
Oh, yes - not to mention use of the word "so" in the following way:
"I am sooo not going to respond to this post"

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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Ricochet
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 02:13 |
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Trotsky
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 02:10 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Common Rideout ... Skewers Me, Peels Me
(oddly enough am listening to Slade right now) 
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There -- the handy Google tool bar spell check cleared that up!
(If you install it, you can check your posts here.)
Long thyme know sea, Trots! Good to here from yew again! 
Slade?!?! Ha! 
SLADE <- green slade |
Bak @ yer, mi deer fella
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Leningrad
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 21:13 |
R U SAYNG TAHT PEOPLE TAHT TYPE LIEK THES R STUPID?!??!! OMG WTF LOL I DONT AGRE WIT TAHT AT AL!1111 OMG
But really, I've grown to hate people that type like that on a regular basis. It's really hard to have a decent conversation on MSN, because after I say "How's it going?", they reply "i m gr8 hw r u???"
It's not cool to be smart anymore. 
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 20:03 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 19:55 |
The Miracle wrote:
Reading is way old fashioned now, and it saddens |
That's another gripe of mine; the use of cool words like "way". There is no need for "way" in that sentence.  However, it could be worse: Man, reading is like totally way old fashioned! 
Edited by Geck0 - September 07 2006 at 19:55
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 19:51 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Oh well -- evryone just spell the way you want to, then.
Spelling rules are a tool of the fascist, castrating oppressors, and serve no useful purpose, anyway. 
cya  |
Tsk tsk, Peter, even after editing, you still get it wrong!  
Or was that irony?
Anyhow, I agree with you Peter. I strive in correct spelling and grammar as much as possible, but I also slip up myself and it frustrates me when I do. I type quite fast and I often miss words out, because I can think faster than I can type.
I happen to make a few continuous errors. One of these errors, includes writing the word "that" instead of "than". I know that it should be "than", but my fingers type "that". It's very annoying!
Very occasionally I spell a word incorrectly and this is either due to bad memory, or due to tiredness, but if I spot the said spelling error n time, I will make a quick edit after clicking that "Post Reply" button.
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 19:30 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Like it or not, consistently poor spelling (not a mere typo here and there) creates a negative impression in most readers. (Though I think that concern for spelling is diminishing among the young, thanks to the hurried mode of communication on the web, and the seeming decline in reading as a past-time, in favour of computers and TV.)  Imagine a piece of advertising, a resume, or a newspaper that was full
of basic spelling errors -- it would hardly lend an air of
trustworthyness, attention to detail or credibility to the source!  |
That I totally agree with - at least because I watch my 10 year old sister spend hours in front of TV watching dumb teen comedies that look like they were designed for retards - no thought required and no knowledge or moral to it. Video and PC games are another big concern: I never cared for them at all and that's one of my main difference from my peers who seem to only care for World Of Warcraft. The thing is, bad spelling is usually caused by the hurry people type on IM because otherwise normal conversation speed is impossible. Forums are another story, but many people keep their 'style', even perfect spellers in real life. It also depends on how seriously one takes his presence in a web community - check my really old posts in the MC, you'll see some major capitalization problems  So of course it's usually the "n00bs" with the most spelling mistakes. Reading is way old fashioned now, and it saddens
Peter Rideout wrote:
It's sort of like habitual swearing, manners and dress, I think -- it makes an impression, like it or not. |
Sort of... though swearing is culture-wide, age-independent phenomenon, at least here in the US. The f and s words pretty much lost their offensive value thanks to very common use
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Peter
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 19:11 |
Oh well -- evryone just spell the way you want to, then.
Spelling rules are a tool of the fascist, castrating oppressors, and serve no useful purpose, anyway. 
cya 
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 07 2006 at 19:12
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 19:05 |
Pneubauer wrote:
I would vote 'No' but it seems that this poll was only created to poke fun at people who screw up their spelling and, therefore, no such answer exists. 
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Seems you're on to me, then.
Doh!
Still, you could try the 6th or 7th choice.... 
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 07 2006 at 19:08
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 19:02 |
I know that, of course! (I was not equating spelling ability with morality, but referring to the first impression it gives.)
Like it or not, consistently poor spelling (not a mere typo here and there) creates a negative impression in most readers. (Though I think that concern for spelling is diminishing among the young, thanks to the hurried mode of communication on the web, and the seeming decline in reading as a past-time, in favour of computers and TV.) 
Imagine a piece of advertising, a resume, or a newspaper that was full of basic spelling errors -- it would hardly lend an air of trustworthiness, attention to detail or credibility to the source! 
It's sort of like habitual swearing, manners and dress, I think -- it makes an impression, like it or not.
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 07 2006 at 19:31
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Pneubauer
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 18:43 |
I would vote 'No' but it seems that this poll was only created to poke fun at people who screw up their spelling and, therefore, no such answer exists.
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 18:38 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
After all this time on the Internet, I learned to ignore - sometimes very nice people type like that. |
 (Whereas we horrible people spell well....) |
There are as many arseholes with good spelling as there are with bad - it'd the message, not the spelling that counts
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Peter
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Posted: September 07 2006 at 18:27 |
The Miracle wrote:
After all this time on the Internet, I learned to ignore - sometimes very nice people type like that. |
 (Whereas we horrible people spell well....)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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