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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 19:46
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
Anyway, let's stop this, okay? I'm bored with it (as, I'm sure, are others), and I'm not at work now!
 
It's time to go make some homemade "mac & cheese," feed my kids, then go for another ride!
 
SmileTTYL! ( < Internet "shorthand" does not require periods between those letters!)Wink


Not a problem, that's fine by me.

I only missed the one punctuation error.

"P.S." isn't Internet shorthand, but of course, "TTYL" is.  I do not particularly like to use Internet "shorthand" anyhow.

Indeed, enough of this tomfoolery!

Kids!  Kids!  They're children, Peter, not kids!

Anyhow... have a fun and interesting evening talking about me to your family! Wink

P.S. I was always taught to use a double space after a full stop; neither way is incorrect, however the single space seems to be the modern and accepted way.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 19:35
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Oh but Peter, I won't give up; because one learns from their mistakes, dear fellow!

Oh and dad, I'm not your son!

I am not hopelessly outclassed - that is just your ego working overtime - but I am, however, slightly outclassed.

Oh oh oh, you have a comma before an "and," that's old hat, old chap!  Yes, for a 19th century writer, a comma before an "and" was used, however today, well... they're not used as much any more.  An "and" is a conjunction in its own right, so a comma is defunct (in the majority of cases).

So, therefore, do be consistent and either use commas before "and" or none at all.

But I see you are correct to use it, if your sentence after the "and," was an afterthought.

So you don't have to re-write it, however I wouldn't write too many "loose sentences".

The same also applies for a comma before "but."

Wink
 
As with "mom," "mother," "father," and so on, when the pronoun "dad" is used as a name substitute (as you did) it should be capitalized, but not when it is merely generic. Thus we get: "Mom, is Dad home?" and "I'm going home to kill my dad."
 
The use here of "son" is not literal, but informal and conversational. Rather than the usual familial relationship, the word here serves to indicate a significant disparity in ages, as well, perhaps, as a modicum of (grudging) affection.
 
Pronoun agreement: "one" is singular, but "their" is plural. You could have used "one" and "his" (but to be non-sexist, "his or her" would be better), or "I" and "my," etc.
 
You are technically correct, but a comma in front of "and" is optional in such cases as above. Granted, it does not belong in a short list, as such: "I like rock, prog and jazz." It can be used, however, when the sentence continues for a "significant" length (this length is unspecified) past the "and," as in: "I started up my bike, and then went for a nice, long ride on one of the many dirt roads in my area."
 
No such sweeping choice is needed (see above). The comma can still provide a wanted pause, and/or enhance clarity.
 
ShockedThere's that old error, again! Punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks! Pay attention, young man!Stern Smile
 
 
 
Anyway, let's stop this, okay? I'm bored with it (as, I'm sure, are others), and I'm not at work now!
 
It's time to go make some homemade "mac & cheese," feed my kids, then go for another ride!
 
SmileTTYL! ( < Internet "shorthand" does not require periods between those letters!)Wink
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 18:43

 

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Quote MANDRAKEROOT Replybullet Posted: Today at 10:52
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do you mean insane or angry?
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:36
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Got some stuff in the mail today (and I bought a cd as well):
 
Fish- Raingods with Zippos
Fish- Return to Childhood
Kayo Dot- Choirs of the Eye
Klaus Schulze- Timewind
 
Cool

Brilliant post! ClapClapClapClapClap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:35
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Got some stuff in the mail today (and I bought a cd as well):
 
Fish- Raingods with Zippos
Fish- Return to Childhood
Kayo Dot- Choirs of the Eye
Klaus Schulze- Timewind
 
Cool

Brilliant post! ClapClapClapClapClap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:32
Good idea Tlossy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:29
Maybe I should retitle this thread "criticize the gramatical errors of other members".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:25
Oh but Peter, I won't give up; because one learns from their mistakes, dear fellow!

Oh and dad, I'm not your son!

I am not hopelessly outclassed - that is just your ego working overtime - but I am, however, slightly outclassed.

Oh oh oh, you have a comma before an "and," that's old hat, old chap!  Yes, for a 19th century writer, a comma before an "and" was used, however today, well... they're not used as much any more.  An "and" is a conjunction in its own right, so a comma is defunct (in the majority of cases).

So, therefore, do be consistent and either use commas before "and" or none at all.

But I see you are correct to use it, if your sentence after the "and," was an afterthought.

So you don't have to re-write it, however I wouldn't write too many "loose sentences".

The same also applies for a comma before "but."

Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:02
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Of course, it wasn't a question of the speed of Icarus's wings (not that such a design could ever work), as it was the surface area, and more specifically a sudden lack of feathers. He was doing fine, until the wax melted, and he lost too many of them.


Your memory is full of those seqoias (sp) again, Peter.  You (double space) were the one that said "ever", (Again, punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks.) so I was just re-quoting what you said yourself. (redundant)

Anyhow, (the story of) Icarus is just a fable, so I am not exactly incorrect with what I say and neither are you, of course.

Have fun my friend, it (comma splice) has been fun!

Until the next time.
LOL
 
 
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Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 17:04
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 16:48
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

migrane(sp) What's more, your intellect can see? (not a question, but worded like a statement)That is a very special type of intellect you possess, I believe you ought to see a doctor about that. (comma splice)

Of course, I am very much aware that the wax melted Icarus' feathers; but, as you quite correctly said: such a design could ever work! (By omitting my preceding "not that," you have changed the meaning to indicate the design actually would work. Be careful with quoting. You can reword a quote to retain the original meaning in this fashion: "such a design could (never) work." (The brackets indicate where you have modified or added to the original for clarity in the context of your sentence.)

What's a "quotaion," anyhow? Wink

Is that better, oh diligent one?
 
It's the "next time!" (Please see above.)
 
I believe that is enough of our selfish thread hijacking for the nonce, little lizard!
 
(Can you not see that you are obviously hopelessly outclassed in matters grammatical and pedantic, and ever doomed to fall in ignominious defeat? Get out while you still have even the smallest shred of dignity to cling to, son!)Stern Smile
 
 


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 16:51
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 16:31
Winner of the "Most Pretentious Post" award

Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:



To consider your value for entertainment, in remonstrance for quality, within progressive bands' appreciation, I think the so-called "poseur" - whose identidy, uniquely imbedded with the group's coexistence, probably gets you off since he fails to appeal to what casts appreciation in his divergence from the average spectacle (rumours tend to imply his name is Maynard James Keenan), - wouldn't be the only one to reciprocate your thought, as even DT or any other valuable musician would come to advert/punchback about how he/she's quality isn't measured through the category of "circus artistry", hyperbolicly speaking. Perhaps I'm cathing an erroneous conception of your phrases' intention and I apologize if so, but that exuded barren views of musical importance, since, beyond your egregious subjectivity to define Tool, their originally crafted countenance, of consistently unwavering "artistic" integrity, defies premature auditions for the precociously critic ear, as to see what lies beneath more than meets the eye takes auditive sensibility and patiently placid sagacity, not just an overwhelmed feel contracted upon hearing instruments reach their highest grounds of impressive skill, which, although might prove useful in a guitar-virtuoso band, isn't sufficient towards prog or any less conspicuous flairs, in rock itself.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 15:12
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Of course, it wasn't a question of the speed of Icarus's wings (not that such a design could ever work), as it was the surface area, and more specifically a sudden lack of feathers. He was doing fine, until the wax melted, and he lost too many of them.


Your memory is full of those seqoias again, Peter.  You were the one that said "ever", so I was just re-quoting what you said yourself.

Anyhow, Icarus is just a fable, so I am not exactly incorrect with what I say and neither are you, of course.

Have fun my friend, it has been fun!

Until the next time.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 14:57
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Ouch!  That razor-sharp intellect must hurt!  Does it dig-in and give you a migrane?  What's more, your intellect can see?  That is a very special type of intellect you possess, I believe you ought to see a doctor about that.

Of course, I am very much aware that the wax melted Icarus' feathers; but, as you quite correctly said: such a design could ever work!

What's a "quotaion," anyhow? Wink

Is that better, oh diligent one?
Ha -- enough!
 
Still, the heat of the sun melted the wax which held the feathers in place -- the wax did not melt the feathers, as you maintain. (Feathers do not melt, in any case.)
 
"ever?"
 
Re my erroneous spelling of quotation, I had noticed the typo and fixed it before you replied -- you should have hit the "quote" button immediately, old chap!Tongue
 
 
 
It's been fun, but I have to go -- the sweet siren song of the rocky rambling road stirs my soul, and I needs must answer the compelling call. (How's that for "purple" prose?)
 
TTYL, pal!


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 15:00
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 14:13
Ouch!  That razor-sharp intellect must hurt!  Does it dig-in and give you a migrane?  What's more, your intellect can see?  That is a very special type of intellect you possess, I believe you ought to see a doctor about that.

Of course, I am very much aware that the wax melted Icarus' feathers; but, as you quite correctly said: such a design could ever work!

What's a "quotaion," anyhow? Wink

Is that better, oh diligent one?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:52
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

I never meant the sun at all, Peter!  He (pronoun reference) flew towards the sun, yes, but he didn't fall into it.  I was just saying that Jim and yourself - were falling Icarus-like - because neither of you can flap your wings fast enough to maintain momentum.

So you've misunderstood my pseudo-intellectual metaphor! Wink

Also, I believe you are misusing your post scriptums!  They are never "PS:", (comma placement: always inside the quotation marks) but always "P.S.", unless you Canadians use some alternative "Dictionary of Style"(not a question, and punctuation inside the quotation marks in any case, please) I would have thought that "PS" was also sufficient, but never "PS:". (see previous)

Sort it out Peter! (missing comma)
Well, as you can see, we could do this forever, and you're a near-worthy opponent, but know that how I might write (or punctuate) here, is not necessarily how I'd write in a professional capacity.
 
Of course, it wasn't a question of the speed of Icarus's wings (not that such a design could ever work), as it was the surface area, and more specifically a sudden lack of feathers. He was doing fine, until the wax melted, and he lost too many of them.
 
Once again, upstart, your would-be high-flying metaphor has plummeted, Icarus-like, into the cold, unforgiving sea of my superior, razor-sharp, all-seeing intellect!LOL
 
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Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 13:57
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:38
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

this one stuck in my mind (probably since I was the target of said post hahaha) ... and was an early introduction to the PA's institution that is Peter Rideout.....





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Quote Peter Rideout Replybullet Posted: January 30 2006 at 22:01

Originally posted by micky



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Uh oh: tell-tale demonic laugh, Beastly, apocalyptic post count number, a name that contains "M - ICKY" - as in "I'm Icky" (or possibly "I'M Crimson King Yahahaha"), a title ("Senior Member") that unscrambles to form "O Remember Sin" and an avatar that conveniently gets cut off near the top of the head right where the horns would be....

ShockedGulp! Just who have I been chumming around with here?

Don't sign any "contracts" with old Nick Scratch here, progholes -- it could mean your very soul!Stern Smile

 

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More death growls! MORE!"

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:23
I never meant the sun at all, Peter!  Icarus flew towards the sun, yes, but he didn't fall into it.  I was just saying that Jim and yourself - were falling Icarus-like - because neither of you can flap your wings fast enough to maintain momentum.

So you've misunderstood my pseudo-intellectual metaphor! Wink

Also, I believe you are misusing your post scriptums!  They are never "PS:," but always "P.S.," unless you Canadians use some alternative "Manual of Style," I would have thought that "PS" was also sufficient, but never "PS:."

Sort it out, Peter!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:22
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I was kidding, Peter, sorry for not being clear.
Ah -- I suspected as much. Thanks, Avestin!
 
 
This cheery little fellow: Wink is quite handy to indicate joking, or tongue-in-cheek remarks.
 
Ermm I wonder if all of the many cultures represented here attach the same significance to the wink? In face-to-face interaction it can be flirtatious, but in this context it indicates "I'm just kidding -- please don't get your knickers in a twist!"


It's funny you mention it. FOr me it bears mostly a more negative meaning, such as I am better/smarter than you, this is why I made this remark and the wink is meant to irritate you, it shows you I am aware of my advantages over you etc. (wow, this small symbol has drawn some deep hidden emotions in me LOL)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:18
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I was kidding, Peter, sorry for not being clear.
Ah -- I suspected as much. Thanks, Avestin!
 
 
This cheery little fellow: Wink is quite handy to indicate joking, or tongue-in-cheek remarks.
 
Ermm I wonder if all of the many cultures represented here attach the same significance to the wink? In face-to-face interaction it can be flirtatious, but in this context it indicates "I'm just kidding -- please don't get your knickers in a twist!"


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 13:19
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:05
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

So that's just one mistake then, Jim?

That's fine, we all make mistakes and that wasn't a spelling mistake, per se, but rather a typographical error.

Besides, I still caught that whippersnapper out with his lack of a closed bracket!

Indeed Bob, I have more than one post featured in this thread, but Peter Garten... oops - I mean Peter Rid-icule-out - and Jim Rideout... oops again - of course I mean Jim "gaseous" Garten - will always feature in such threads, as they have a tendency to flap in the wind and not get very far, falling very Icarus-like, into the conflagration of someones ego-trip!
 
 May I assume that the above rather arcane "communication" made sense in some alternate universe?
 
PS: That's "someone's" Geek
 
PPS: Icarus, of course, fell into the sea, (a watery, decidedly non-conflagrant, medium) not the sun, as you imply here.Your clumsy, pseudo-intellectual metaphor does not hold water! Geek
 
 


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 13:20
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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