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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: November 09 2004 at 23:11 |
Summer of Sixty-nine... Fellow Canuck and all.
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James Lee
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Posted: November 09 2004 at 11:14 |
Peter: whenever you need inspiration, just put on "Takin' Care of Business", "So You Want to Be a Rock-n-roll Star", or especially Radiohead's "Anyone Can Play Guitar"
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Peter
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Posted: November 09 2004 at 10:48 |
Sincere thanks for the advice, chums!
I'll let you know if/when/how I take the plunge into axesmith superstardom....
C'mon, groupies! Atta girl -- shake hands with it!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: November 09 2004 at 10:41 |
I think quality waivers in the face of mass production, however, the competition has really stepped up when you talk about affordable guitars. It's easier for a smaller company to make the product now, since machining equipment is more affordable than previously.
Seems like I see at least four or five kids a day carrying guitar cases, sprawled on the turf at the college or playing in front of the local coffee houses. It's much more common then in my youth. Seems like everyone is playing a guitar, some very well.
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sigod
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Posted: November 09 2004 at 09:50 |
James Lee wrote:
I never heard that about the dogs and angels though- good story!
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Well I can't prove that it's true but it sounds plausable
I begin to wonder that, with so much, modelling technology out there now, if the standards of guitar making these days have increased (due to the competition) or decreased (due to the concept of 'fixing' the sound after it's left the guitar).
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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James Lee
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 10:09 |
LOL, one of my first guitars was a Squire Strat that I put an imitation Floyd Rose on...back in the Yngwie days. The action was so high you could slide a CD case under the strings at the 12th fret
I never heard that about the dogs and angels though- good story!
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sigod
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 07:47 |
James Lee wrote:
What are the cheapest (cheaply-made rather than good bargains) instruments you've enjoyed playing?
I had an Aria Pro 2 strat copy that I loved...it had a slightly shorter scale so I wasn't straining so much to do those wide 9th chords...I also had a Peavey guitar that was heavier than the amp...
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I suppose it has to be my crappy Squire Strat. I got it rigged as a guitar synth recently which has given it a whole new lease of life.
There are stories of workers in the Fender factory in china who break the boredom of their day by creating what are called 'Dogs' and 'Angels'. The Dogs are deliberately built to pass the quality test but are otherwise unplayable whereas the Angels are designed to be well above the benchmark for such a cheap guitar. Apparently there are many more dogs than angels (surprise, surprise) but if you get lucky, oh boy...
I understand Frank Dunnery had a similar model to my Squire but trust me when I say, it's coincidence
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- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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James Lee
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Posted: November 08 2004 at 06:34 |
What are the cheapest (cheaply-made rather than good bargains) instruments you've enjoyed playing?
I had an Aria Pro 2 strat copy that I loved...it had a slightly shorter scale so I wasn't straining so much to do those wide 9th chords...I also had a Peavey guitar that was heavier than the amp...
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JrKASperov
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Posted: November 07 2004 at 19:16 |
For basses, there's one brand: CORT!
i own one, it's CHEAP and REALLY GOOD. In my experience it's a really good jazz instrument, and the range of my passive elements is really wild!
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Epic.
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James Lee
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 19:24 |
^ going off on a tangent? That never happens
actually, I can kinda bring your question back on topic- I use the B4 on guitar tracks for the great Leslie simulation (oh yeah, it does a hammond organ sound too, apparently ). I've never used M-tron but I get good Mello sounds from a free plug-in called "Tapeworm".
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 17:43 |
Start a new one... eh?
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arcer
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 14:36 |
Actually.... duh!! that question about softsynths would
probably be slightly better in a thread not dedicated
to guitars, getting carried away again....
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 13:53 |
Never liked active guitars myself. Having nabbed my
old Hohner ST57 and having fallen in love with it, I
went out an bought it's successor the ST 59, which
has a semi-active system which blends the tone
pots and pick-ups, supposedly giving multiple tones
with which you can emulate a number of guitar
sounds - the book that came with it offered settings
for tele, strat, gretsch - etc.
I never really liked this feature and didn't use the
guitar much live (even tho' it has the most beautiful)
forest green finish and gold hardware).
These days being a studio-bound old guy I ramped
up the action and use it solely for slide where with a
bit of tweaking through a korg ax1000 it does a
passable Gilmour.
Actually I wonder is this Honher system the world's
first example of physical modelling! hahahah!
As for bass, again I'm pretty old school. I like things
to be plug and play. My rattly old passive Cimar
(Ibanez by another name) does just fine and is a
cool growly old warhorse.
Question: where do people stand on hardware
synths v soft synths. Is M-Tron up to it? is the Arturia
Cs80 a good model of the original. B4 or Begone?
What about the impOSCAR, imp or limp?
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 10:48 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
I've actually been considering gee-tar lessons....
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Get a decent guitar. Don't waste money on a crappy $80 Ronco. You'll have trouble keeping them in tune and they are usualy made with lousy hardware and poor adjustment capabilities, like an adjustable bridege so you can set the heightof the strings off the fretboard.
Do you wanna play acoustic or electric? A company called Samick makes some nice beginner guitars that are reasonably priced. I bought my daughter a small scale acoustic, she was 11 at the time. It stays in tune, has a nice tone, straight neck and low action. They have a variety of electrics, solid and hollow bodies.
There are some beginners books that are pretty good. Some have a CD that lets you hear how it should sound, plus tabulature (tab) and chord charts. Tab shows you what string, which finger and fret to play at. There are some good videos too.
If you know any players, have them help you pick out a good instrument. Don't go out and buy a $1,200 strat if you're not really serious. Always check the Pawn Shops and want ads. I got my Strat for a ridiculous price, kid needed car insurance.... $50.00....
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James Lee
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Posted: November 06 2004 at 03:59 |
^ run, don't walk towards the guitar! A bottomless well of the rewarding mysteries of the universe await you! Women will want you and men will want to BE you
I only had one lesson...the rest of my bad habits I picked up on my own. But if maladroit James can learn to play, anyone can...
One of the Gibson's typical characteristics is a relatively flat frequency response rising only slightly around the lower midrange- this, plus the inherent noiselessness of humbuckers, makes it better suited for jazz's clean, well-rounded tones than the brighter, thinner single coils found in strats and telecasters. I'd say at least 85% of jazz is recorded with humbucker guitars. If you're really into jazz guitars, a hollowbody archtop is the essential instrument.
On the other hand, the more hollow bell-like tones of the single coil (especially when cleaned up with active/ low impedance pickups) have been popular among specfic jazz players...Charlie Christian, Django (my fav 'classic' jazz player), Wes Montgomery, and of course good ol' Jeff Beck.
I don't have a PodXT...or even a Pod 2.0...I have the very first model, and it does almost everything I need it to do (except let me control the decay time on the delays, grrr...). Even the fuzz voice has a nice analog sound to it, once you roll off the midrange and crank the treble a bit. The rotary is surprisingly good too...not quite a leslie, but as good as most simulations. And running it into a proper amp and speakers sounds better than most amps under a grand.
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Peter
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Posted: November 05 2004 at 23:12 |
I got a Gibson, without a case -- but I can't get that even-tanned look on my face....
Hey,if it's good enough for Pete T....
Both great axes, figures this non-player. Is it true that the Gib is "warmer," & that's why I see it more in jazz than the Strat?
I've actually been considering gee-tar lessons....
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Posted: November 05 2004 at 18:14 |
sigod wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
The best thing I ever discovered for my Westie is the Pod XT. The more I hear it, the more I like it. I do think it's good etc, etc, etc.
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Yeah, the Pod XT is a great little box and can really help to even out some of the weaker sonic areas that my guitars exhibit. However, you can't beat a good amp, cranked up loud for that sweet responsive touch.
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Too true - especially an amp laden with glowing valves...
However, in my little studio the Pod XT Pro just sits in the rack pretending to be a Mesa Boogie MkII, a JCM 800, an AC30, and so forth... it's quite hard to tell once you've recorded that you've cheated
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 05 2004 at 12:35 |
sigod wrote:
Wise words Jim.
Twin necks rule...
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NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE...........
The only thing wrong with that picture is the double neck should be leaning against a pair of Marshall 4x12's with a 100w valve head on top (or is that the subject for a different thread??)
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James Lee
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Posted: November 05 2004 at 12:16 |
I always liked seeing Hendrix with his Gibson Flying V, Clapton with his Cream-era SG and Jimmy Page with his Tele...as they're all so synonymous with the exact opposite guitars.
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sigod
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Posted: November 05 2004 at 11:41 |
Wise words Jim.
Twin necks rule...
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