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suitkees
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^ Good call regarding Now, but I would rather refer to their first album: Complaint of the Wind; this one is much more AOR-ish then Speres or Deep, which are much more full blown (Neo) Prog. Deep is their best album though. Really nice how this thread unfolds: many great suggestions. Many known and usual suspects, but also some bands that are - to me - lesser known or not known at all. Some more music to explore, thus.
Never really dived into the music of Demon (mainly heard bits of them back in the 80s) but this is a very enjoyable album indeed! Thanks. |
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The Belgian band Now, fronted by guitarist and singer Vincent Fis, was arguably the finest AOR-prog band on the continent in the late 1980s and early 1990s. They created strong, dynamic AOR-prog, a fashionable fusion of the U.S.-style hard-rock and British neo-prog. This four-piece ensemble, which featured a lady as well, sounds incredibly colourful, intricate, and lyrical in that AOR-prog kind of way. "Deep" is their third and final album, released in 1992. The album has five songs, one of which is a cover of Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir''. Really, that cover is quite excellent and proggy. And Vincent Fis has incredible guitar skills. After this record, Now disbanded, and its talented keyboard player, Hervé Borbé, joined the venerable Belgian band Machiavel.
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richardh
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All their first 5 albums are pure prog but to my ears only the first 2 are symphonic in the English tradition that they were being influenced by. Masque was the start of a shorter more commercial based approach. Generally I only listen to their first 2 albums in their entiriety and the last 3 albums. On this thread generally people are including crossover bands as well as AOR bands so it's a bit messy anyway. Most would accept Asia's debut is AOR but is there such a massive difference between that and Leftoverture? Take out Magnum Opus (which personally I find a little weak) and I don't see that much. I do like Kansas and count them as a favourite band (more so than say Gentle Giant) so it's not about trying to put them down in any way. They were certainly one of the best American bands (AOR can also mean American Orientated Rock) along with Chicago and The Tubes. IMO
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I tend to be a huge AOR fan and find it to be prog related. I am a fan of most of the aforementioned bands: Journey, Boston, REO, Chicago, Journey, Asia, Toto, etc. In recent years (meaning the last couple of decades), Sweden has had a number of newer Prog-lite/AOR bands releasing albums. I am a fan of bands such as Work of Art, Eclipse, and W.E.T. (a "supergroup consisting of members of Work of Art, Eclipse, and Talisman). W.E.T. and Talisman had Jeff Scott Soto as vocalist. Houston is another good Swedish AOR band.
Other good bands are AOR and Mecca. A couple of older British AOR bands that I really enjoy are FM and Strangeways.
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Edited by presdoug - April 29 2024 at 18:43 |
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No, I grew up in SoCal. Class of '90! |
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Yes he was!! I just wrote him an email to see if he'd respond, I bet he will! Were you in Champaign IL in that era? Sounds like it!
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He was pretty handy with a synthesizer, too! |
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^Correct, Leftoverture is no less prog than Wind & Wuthering or Rain Dances.
IMO, Kansas didn't start the transition to AOR till Monolith and hitting it with Elefante in the band. Then Walsh returned and the pendulum began to swing back, albeit slowly. "Musicatto," a great instrumental from Power, with Steve Morse installed as lead guitarist. |
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I was a backstage friend of Herb, he was an amazing talent on Hammond organ! Interestingly, he was also a highly regarded computer programmer and wrote some seminal textbooks on the topic! |
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^I would agree with you if you said Point of Know Return or Audio Visions but imo Leftoverture is pure prog.
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richardh
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Kansas cornered the market with Leftoverture.
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Jared
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Thanks for your comments. Solar Fire is also my fave, but I think Angel Station is their strongest representation in this category... it's quality Prog tinged AOR, whereas Chance isn't as good and is also too low on the Prog quotient for this category. I'd say exactly the same about Magic Is A Child (still quite enjoyable) as opposed to Man In The Moon, too AOR. I still own Angel St & Magic, but don't own Moon or Chance these days. Incidentally, my fave Nektar is Remember The Future, FWIW...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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FaPZ is also a winner in my book, along with Foreigner's debut. MMEB's Solar Fire is my favorite of theirs (though that's straight-up prog). Nektar's Magic is a Child was my introduction to them, and while it's not considered prime Nektar, I like it. |
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When I think of a really successful AOR/ Prog hybrid, my favourite may well be the stupendous 'Jefferson Starship: Freedom At Point Zero', however another few would be:
MMEB: Angel Station
Nektar: Magic Is A Child Toto: Turn Back Styx: Grand Illusion Foreigner: Debut Supertramp: Crime Century |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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This old band "Double" had some interesting songs. This song used to remind me of cheese but after revisiting many years later, it's really quite exceptional. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX-Ru1XkNZc
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What's wrong with Album-Oriented Rock?
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Friends don't let friends listen to AOR.
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Planet P/Tony Carey fan, here! That's a classic, but I think it's nearly crossover prog, what with its amalgam of German-influenced new wave and motorik, prog electronic and American rock. I dig the conceptual follow-up Pink World even more. It's amazing Tony recorded everything you hear on it! |
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