QUEEN VS DREAM THEATER

AtLossForWords wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: Certif1ed wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer.  Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums.   Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.   Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material? And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band. I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there... That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music. BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted. i totally disagree, maybe if you were to say that Queen II is more creative than a single Dream Theater album, you might have a fair position.  You error in saying that it's more creative than the entire Dream Theater discography.  Let me reminded that this discography spans from a hair metal progressive album with Charlie Dominci on When Dream and Day Unite to Progressive Thrash Metal on Train of Thought.  This alone means that Dream Theater has had a varied career.  Going further into creativity, how can you doubt a band that makes a song like Dance of Eternity, a straight ahead tech song and throws a ragtime piano solo in the middle, or the brilliance of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which i consider to be a musically flawless albums, especially after studying it.

Your post doesn't have anything to do with mine. The highlighted statement couldn't be more far from the truth ... it's obvious that you intended to answer to Certif1ed's post.

Let me summarize my post in simple words:

• I don't think that Queen are better than Dream Theater.
• I don't think that Queen II is better than any of the Dream Theater masterpieces ... it MIGHT be better than WDADU.
• The bands are not really comparable anyway.

Certif1ed wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer.  Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums.   Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.   Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material? And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band. I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there...

That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music.

BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Actually, there are some pretty divine melodies on Queen II ... Fairy Feller, White Queen, Ogre Battle, Black Queen ... and on their other albums as well. IMHO one might even say that Queen are one of the ten bands with the best sense for melody.

Master of melody=Iron Maiden...listen to Sign of the cross...nobody is better in terms of timechanges

 DT are good musicians but they never could move me like queen.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Actually, there are some pretty divine melodies on Queen II ... Fairy Feller, White Queen, Ogre Battle, Black Queen ... and on their other albums as well. IMHO one might even say that Queen are one of the ten bands with the best sense for melody.

Master of melody=Iron Maiden...listen to Sign of the cross...nobody is better in terms of timechanges

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Certif1ed wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer.  Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums.   Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.   Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material? And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band. I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there... That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music. BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted.

i totally disagree, maybe if you were to say that Queen II is more creative than a single Dream Theater album, you might have a fair position.  You error in saying that it's more creative than the entire Dream Theater discography.  Let me reminded that this discography spans from a hair metal progressive album with Charlie Dominci on When Dream and Day Unite to Progressive Thrash Metal on Train of Thought.  This alone means that Dream Theater has had a varied career.  Going further into creativity, how can you doubt a band that makes a song like Dance of Eternity, a straight ahead tech song and throws a ragtime piano solo in the middle, or the brilliance of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which i consider to be a musically flawless albums, especially after studying it.