Do any other younger prog fans feel this way?

The same jerks who get annoyed if you tell them to please keep it down, or go someplace else to speak

I am totally fed up to the back teeth with the petty points scoring attitude of this forum , I mentioned the Italian bands and how much I like them, you then spout a lot of petty nonsense and highlight stuff that I basically alluded to. Its so bloody annoying and now I have to repeat myself again!

The respect USA bands and musicians had for the top UK bands and their influence is self eveident. Nothing to do with sales of albums but just how f**king good they were. The likes of Yes and ELP ruled when they hopped over the pond because USA had nothing like it. I mentioned Italian bands, go back and read my comments and stop being a child.

              it was a totally different dynamic; the progressive rock "Big boys" were selling out massive arenas, and who would have imagined that an interest in Continental European rock would occurr there-at first with Kraftwerk and Triumvirat from Germany making waves in America, and PFM from Italy and Focus from Holland. 

           If I may say, that dynamic with Europe was most strikingly the case with Triumvirat, a group who were given nothing better than the middle finger from their German homeland, entered the Top 50 and consecutive Top 30 album charts in the USA, much to everyone's surprise. 

                         It was great until the "Corporate Rape" changed things so drastically in a fairly short time. 

I'm 64 too and I jumped on the prog bandwagon in 1973 with Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells - my first prog album (although I had no idea it was prog at the time). It took me another forty years and the birth of the Internet before I bought my first CD's by Caravan, ELP, Genesis, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd and YES. Between first going online in 2010 and now, my CD collection went up from just 400 to 3,200 in the space of thirteen years. It's not easy finding prog albums in charity shops and car boot sales though. After rummaging through the usual dross of boy bands and Brit-Pop albums by Oasis and Blur, all I usually find prog-wise are eighties Genesis albums by the bucketload, which hardly anyone wants anyway. I had to think twice whether I really wanted to spend a whole pound on Invisible Touch recently. 

Grumpyprogfan wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Without the 70's prog pioneers, there wouldn't be "modern prog" OK, so what does that have to do with Frets statement that "the greatest prog was made in the 70's"?

Sorry Grumpy, I hadn't seen your reply.

Outside the obvious pioneer thing, I can understand that one may think TFK is better (consistent) than Genesis, not only on the length of their body of work (TFK and SB have a very focused on prog discography) and may have better individual virtuosi at their respective instrument (though beating P Collins on the stool ...), but their body of work is very derivative of the works of the pioneers, which in itself is a flaw. This is an even bigger trait in what one calls "retro-prog" - which is my favoured genre in modern prog, so I'm not condemning it.

Yes (the affirmation, not the band), the fact that the 90's bands with 25 year's hindsight & insight, they already knew they would remain within the "prog realm" for their entire career & discography (no matter fhow long it would've been). The 70's bands had no idea where they were heading 5 years down the line, so every new album was different to the previous one.

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Thank you!! 

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                  I did not discover Triumvirat and other progressive rock really until the mid 1980s, but as I did not like 80s music at the time, I was enamoured with 70s prog, so I am kind of in between those who knew early prog like the back of their hand, and those that were born much later on.

                 I have to say that I am saddened by the passing of many of these prog pioneers that are/were my musical heroes; it hurt like hell when I heard that Triumvirat's Helmut Koellen died so long ago back in '77, and it is even sadder living in an era now where not a couple of weeks pass without us losing another musical person.

                 I stopped going to live concerts in around 1990 due to permanent tinnitus but still listen avidly on record, and always will.

Sure the major record label (have they consolidated into one single entity yet?) almost completely ignores the genre, it absolutely is far easier to find progressive bands than it was in the miserable 1980's, and the somewhat less dreary 1990's.

I still find new artists that can give me the same feeling now, as I felt half a century ago when I would buy an album and listen to a completely transcendent performance, especially when played by artists I've never heard of before.  

I will admit that I receive plenty of promotional downloads due to my position as a reviewer and team member here, but when I find and album (or sometimes just a song) that blows my mind, I go out of my way to purchase a hard copy when possible, or at least a high-quality download, and pay them more than the asking price when the option is there.