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Why aren't The Flaming Lips on prog archives? |
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siLLy puPPy 
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 Posted: January 02 2024 at 22:17 |
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^ experimental doesn't mean progressive the overwhelming vast majority of their output would be considered progressive pop as far as this site is concerned either crossover or prog related would be fine they just aren't kraut enough for me (one EP isn't enough me thinks) (function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'83f8c5b928cb7aac',t:'MTcwNDI1OTAxNC42NjQwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted: January 02 2024 at 22:12 |
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@Mike: I've considered that, too, but some of their biggest and most outre releases have been those we'd classify as "EP/Fan Club", which feature 6- and 24-hour-long songs respectively that out-psych- and out-krautrock leagues of artists in those established subgenres.
Whether or not those titanic releases render the Lips eligible for an actual subgenre outside of Related might be a prime matter for discussion. I don't mind if it's Xover, Psych or Related: their place is here, and as Victor Hugo said, we can't stop an idea whose time has come. Edited by Gordy - January 02 2024 at 22:13 |
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: January 02 2024 at 21:19 |
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The only place i could possible see them is CROSSOVER (function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'83f86c202d961698',t:'MTcwNDI1NTM0NC43NTYwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted: January 02 2024 at 21:02 |
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GREAT to see so many people who have actually listened to the band agree they are one of the most important prog/psych/avant garde band of the last 20+ years. They have AT LEAST 5-6 albums that easily qualify for several sub-genres on prog archives. It's a big miss to not have them listed.
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I will not be pushed, stamped, filed, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
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Posted: January 02 2024 at 20:33 |
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear, and I'd love to collaborate with you and your enthusiastic expertise. |
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Posted: January 02 2024 at 19:31 |
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^ I voted yes for The Flaming Lips in Prog Related last November, and am glad to see Electric Würms in, which bolsters the case. I hope it goes well, and I can probably help (was thinking I might end up adding it before).
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Posted: January 02 2024 at 19:25 |
I second this.  I'm pleased to report that Lips side-project Electric Würms have been added to Psych/Space. I feel encouraged to finally submit the Lips proper to Psych or Related sometime this year, and if anyone here would like to help me construct the biography, that would be a gargantuan help.
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Posted: September 11 2023 at 15:11 |
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They are psych,prog,pop,rock,avant-garde.....just listen, listen, listen to their music, specially the stuff done 2007-2020, prog asf to me, more prog than any american "prog" band except Kansas and Happy The Man......
I find it amusing, people in here call them POP, well, dont lie, you have only heard "Do you Realize" or another song by them over-played. Thats like saying ELP isnt PROG at all based on ANY Greg Lake ballad..... DO yer research before posting comments !
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Dapper~Blueberries
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Posted: August 30 2023 at 07:28 |
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Flaming Lips are amazing but they def not prog. Maybe prog pop in some cases.
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Posted: August 30 2023 at 03:35 |
Oingo should not be here, that's for sure. However, there area few other bands who don't belong before I'd go excluding Talking Heads, though.  Indeed, I've revisited their more iconic 90/00's albums like Soft Bulletin, Yoshimi, Transmissions, Clouds taste and found nothing to warrant a PA inclusion, even as Related. However, their latest American Head seems drenched in mellotron, though, as if they've just discovered it. .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 17:59 |
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 17:34 |
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 13:37 |
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^ Ok. Now I understand. I didn't mean to offend you, sorry.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 13:29 |
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yes... is that too difficult a concept to grasp? I mainly read reviews and look at discographies, and as you will see (if you look), I've rarely EVER used the forums until this post.
And I really didn't expect people to accuse me of complaining- or people to diss me for being a long term member and not having their level of site knowledge either! I expected it to be a site where fellow prog fans are cordial, helpful and don't judge people without any real reason to do so. So I asked a legitimate question and don't have adequate site knowledge.... does that really mean I should be subjected to flippant comments?
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 12:20 |
You joined 18 years ago and you're still not familiar with the site? 
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 12:15 |
OK. Navigate the site a bit and the forum, get used to it all.
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 12:09 |
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then may I suggest you give people not familiar with the site the benefit of the doubt and don't jump to conclusions? I didn't even know there was a process for suggesting new artists. Now I do.
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Cristi
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 11:53 |
Sorry, but your question sound more like a reproach than a "genuine" one. The rational answer is suggest the artist, see what happens.
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scouser14
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Posted: August 29 2023 at 11:18 |
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Where exactly am I 'complaining'??? I was asking a genuine question, to which there might have been a rational answer I wasn't aware of. May I suggest you consider more measured responses to people simply asking a question?
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