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Frankly, I don't like reggae, so I don't care much about anything related to the genre. Therefore,  I wouldn't know about prog reggae. 
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I know Frank Zappa and the Ozric Tentacles have dabbled in reggae on several occasions but I am unaware of any legitimate full-blown fusion of prog and reggae.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:





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You'll also find a couple of regae tracks on Gentle Giant's Interview album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2023 at 02:22
Early Steel Pulse is indeed proggy as "real" reggae artistes can get, but I think Third World topped that











Edited by Sean Trane - February 11 2023 at 02:25
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

All my suggestions are closer to Dub:

I think Cedric im Brooks kind of has a progressive approach (but especially when their not reallty reggae/dub anymore).


Same goes for Count Ossie & The Mystic Revelation Of Rastafari




Maybe stuff like Augustus Pablo and King Tubby qualifies. It's sonically quite interesting and rich in sounds. Progressive or not, I love it nevertheless.






Some nice tunes there... especially the Count Ossie, what a nice tune and great production. Augustus Pablo, definitely a firm favourite of mine for many years.

This reminded me that really Dub as a genre, especially during those halcyon years in the 70s, was pretty "progressive" in its own way, if not "prog" as we think of it, most definitely extremely psychedelic, even though that description was never really attributed to it until later.

I feel Mad Professor needs a mention at this point:


I was fortunate enough to see the man at Glasto one year in the Greenfields, him on mix, a 70 year old black lady in a silver sequin jump-suit on vocals and a ten year old boy on drum machine -- it was a trip for sure!
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


What a journey! That reggae element really kicks in around 12:30 with the bubbling organ, very nice :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2023 at 11:06
All my suggestions are closer to Dub:

I think Cedric im Brooks kind of has a progressive approach (but especially when their not reallty reggae/dub anymore).


Same goes for Count Ossie & The Mystic Revelation Of Rastafari




Maybe stuff like Augustus Pablo and King Tubby qualifies. It's sonically quite interesting and rich in sounds. Progressive or not, I love it nevertheless.







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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

There is this song by Kaipa: Treasure-House from Vittjar (2012). But I can't find links to audio.

And there is this classic minor hit from the Flower Kings (1997) :

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Thanks for that! Ghost of the Red Cloud is a nice tune, can see why it was a "minor hit".

I found Treasure House:



Judging by the sound of the rest of the album, this would be the "chillout" tune! 


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I'm not much familiar with Reggae, but the only album I know which I think to some degree extends the form of usual Reggae is 

Ijahman  (Jamaica)  -  Hail I Hymn   (1978)

 
Anyway, I like it a lot.

Ah yes, great album! Familiar with this, similar in sound to early Steel Pulse
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There is this song by Kaipa: Treasure-House from Vittjar (2012). But I can't find links to audio.

And there is this classic minor hit from the Flower Kings (1997) :


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I'm not much familiar with Reggae, but the only album I know which I think to some degree extends the form of usual Reggae is 

Ijahman  (Jamaica)  -  Hail I Hymn   (1978)

 
Anyway, I like it a lot.
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I had occasion to mention Reggae in another thread... a throwaway comment really, but it got me thinking...

Can there be such a thing as progressive Reggae?

The closest I can think of, maybe, would be some of Steel Pulse's work which certainly broadened the Reggae genre, binging in elements of Jazz and Rock. Also, Groundation from the US... certainly have done something rather interesting with Reggae, adding a great deal of Jazz/Rock influence.

Maybe Dub would be more likely to contain elements that we normally associate with progressive music?
The strongest contender in this area would be, fairly obviously, Easy Star All-Stars - Dub Side of The Moon

And there's no doubt that many Progressive bands use elements of Dub and Reggae in their music.

But.. Progressive Reggae as a sub-genre?  Not sure really... be interested to hear any thoughts... especially since searching for "Reggae" on this forum rather surprisingly only brings up my own post comment on the subject and nothing else! [maybe I'm using the search incorrectly?]
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