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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2022 at 13:10
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

If punk (or metal for that matter) wanted to be loved by me, it should sound like this album:

One more discovery in my collection of what on RYM is considered to be a Punk album:
Shellac  (USA)  -  At Action Park  (Post-Hardcore, 1994)

What do you think of that, Lewian?
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Years ago I got really into the Ramones' first 4 albums, and they remain some of my favorite albums to this day (don't care for anything they've done afterwards). Once every few years they're all I listen to for like a week or two and then I get burned out on them. Outside of that the only punk album in my collection is The Offspring's Ixnay on the Hombre. A very fun pop punk album. I'm planning to get some Fugazi CDs in the near-future though.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>Another book, with much relevance for the American Punk in the 80's, is 
<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>Our Band Could Be Your Life. Scenes from the American Indie Underground 1981-1991 (2001) by Michael Azerrad.
<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>It consists of very extensive profiles of 13 bands, including Black Flag, Hüsker Dü, Minor Threat, Fugazi, The Minutemen 
<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>and Mission of Burma.
very good book. Plenty to quibble about which bands were included (I’d think Dead Kennedys/Alternative Tentacles label would be a no-brainer, for example) but he covers what he chose to cover very well. And using the first 2 SST bands (Black Flag & Minutemen) as the initial “big bang” is as good a focal point as any. I applaud the care the author took covering the topic, and spending a lot of time on a few bands rather than trying to cover all of them.

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

This is as punk as anything if you ask me.



Sonically, maybe/yes.
Spiritually not likely.
Attitude-wise , no
Lyrics-wise, not a chance.

That's why anything "protopunk" is so much more fun than just plain punk. Can had their more punk than punk moment in 1969


Here's the ultimate protopunk-tune - from 1966... and it's another "no" Lyrics-wise.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2022 at 09:09
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Here's an attempt at making a list of my favourite "punk" albums, but most of it is more like proto punk, post punk, new wave or just musically related to punk in some way.

Anyway, I'm glad to see this attempt. 
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If punk (or metal for that matter) wanted to be loved by me, it should sound like this album:

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Here's an attempt at making a list of my favourite "punk" albums, but most of it is more like proto punk, post punk, new wave or just musically related to punk in some way.

The Velvet Underground: The Velvet Underground and Nico + White Light White Heat
Iggy Pop: Raw Power + The Idiot + Lust For Life
The Shaggs: Philosophy of the World
Philemon Arthur and the Dung: Philemon Arthur and the Dung
Television: Marquee Moon
The Sex Pistols: Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
Talking Heads: More Songs About Buildings and Food + Fear of Music + Remain in Light
The Police: Zenyatta Mondatta + Synchronicity
The Clash: The Clash + London Calling + Sandinista!
Sods: Minutes to Go
Kliché: Supertanker + Okay Okay Boys
Sort Sol: Everything That Rises Must Converge + Flow My Firetear
Idles: Brutalism
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As for true punk I've hardly even got a favorite album. But I see lots of stuff I like being posted here by others, that mostly fit better in New Wave/Goth-rock/hardcore and everything else often thought of as post-punk. Love tons of that stuff. But I feel more like posting a few "punky" songs from albums I generally enjoy that rarely gets a mention:

These guys were great, wether under the Athletico Spizz, Spizzenergi (etc..)-moniker


Lara Logic was way better without the X-Ray Specs


Their early stuff is all wonderful












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I have little liking for the period, but Joy Division's Closer is at least worth mentioning.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

The Jam - The Gift (maybe not really punk anymore by that time)



I would argue that The Jam were never true punk, but if they were they stopped being it from All Mod Cons.
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Just for variety, some fine hardcore punk albums I love from the 80s:
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Some of this may be questionable and sorry for not being very diverse.

My mentioning the "diverse" is just to point at different sub-genre possibilities, it's not meant as a requirement. Smile

The large degree of diversity in my own Punk collection is almost accidental, even I in my whole music collection always have aimed at as much diversity as possible - and yet, Progressive Rock (broadly defined) of course being the very core of my interest.

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Another book, with much relevance for the American Punk in the 80's, is 
Our Band Could Be Your Life. Scenes from the American Indie Underground 1981-1991 (2001) by Michael Azerrad.
It consists of very extensive profiles of 13 bands, including Black Flag, Hüsker Dü, Minor Threat, Fugazi, The Minutemen 
and Mission of Burma.
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Just for variety, some fine hardcore punk albums I love from the 80s:

MDC | Millions of Dead Cops - only about 20 minutes long but it has me on the edge of my seat. The vocals are the best part, mirroring and amplifying the music with urgent and angry rants against police brutality (they were a band from Texas with a gay lead singer - use your imagination as to how they were treated) and other redneck concerns

Conflict | Increase the Pressure — British punks and friends of Crass, but quite a bit faster and louder, and just as political. Bands that play this loud and fast really have to work hard to get emotions like this across, and not that many could really pull it off

Minor Threat | Complete Discography- here’s another band that could. They’ve generously put everything they released on a single CD (still in print, on their own label, Dischord), so it’s easy to obtain and essential hardcore listening.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I love lots of more experimental post-punk music and art punk. I love thinks deemed proto-punk and punk proper (The Velvet Underground, The Stooges...).

When I got the idea for this thread, I didn't really imagine that I have in my collection and am fond of so many albums which at least on RYM are considered to be "Punk". Knowing that makes me glad.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Some of this may be questionable and sorry for not being very diverse.

My mentioning the "diverse" is just to point at different sub-genre possibilities, it's not meant as a requirement. Smile




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I love lots of more experimental post-punk music and art punk. I love thinks deemed proto-punk and punk proper (The Velvet Underground, The Stooges...). Some of this may be questionable and sorry for not being very diverse.

Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (Gothic Rock Post-Punk)
Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want (Noise Industrial Rock, Art Punk)
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Let Love In (Alternative Rock. Post-Punk)
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures (Post-Punk, Gothic Rock)
Melt-Banana - Cell-Scape (Noise Rock, Hardcore Punk)
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock)
Phew - Phew (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock)
PiL - Metal Box (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock)
Iggy Pop - The Idiot (Art Rock, Post-Punk)
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (Indie Pop, Post-Punk)
Television - Marquee Moon (Art Punk, Art Rock...)
This Heat - Deceit (Experimental Rock, Post-Punk)
Xiu Xiu - Knife Play (Experimental Rock, Synth Punk)

I've seen an album like The Cure's Disintegration, which I love, described as Post-Punk, but while it intersects with punk, it isn't how I think of it.   Many of my favourite bands and artists have had punk elements and been influenced by punk, such as Swans and Cardiacs and Jon Zorn as well as the mentioned This Heat, which I don't think of as that punk). I did a punk appreciation topic: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122918 Ended up having to moderate myself, hide a couple of my posts and for penance punish my ears with painful punky Crunk for having channeled my inner punk too much. If only it was so easy to channel my inner genius....
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Does this qualify as DIVERSE ?  
I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

This is as punk as anything if you ask me.
(...)

Sonically, maybe/yes.
Spiritually not likely.
Attitude-wise , no
Lyrics-wise, not a chance.

OK I have exaggerated... I mean as punk as what most seem to call punk here.
Anyway, for sure ADII had a similar anti-establishment attitude as the punks later. Also in the early days they were very inclusive, everybody who could hold an instrument could be a musician. It's true that ADII was the core of the more ambitious musicians of the original Amon Duul and some of them became quite good over time, but on the first albums lack of technical professionalism surely still shows, and that was not an accident; they were still well connected to their anarchist roots (in fact you can still hear this even on their 2010 album); music was fun and a group experience rather than something that required sophisticated education and training. Lyrics-wise I'm with you, and of course 20 minute improvisations are not a punk thing (for which reason I chose that song).


Oh yes, Amon Duul was first an ani-establishment hippy commune that started to play mlusic and then split up into two faction: ADI "played" polit rock, wanting to create a new future (while the punk yelled 'no future'), while AD2 went psychedlic. 

I view UK Punk as a reaction to a social gvt (the UK were dominated by labour in the 70's - with the communists getting a sensible share of the votes), albeit understandable, because the country was politcally & economically blocked.  The punks wanted opportunity (find their place in the sun), and I'm relatively certain that a lot of them voted Tory (Paul Weller of The Jam certainly admitted to it), maybe even fascist. You got to remember that a lot of punk-followers were middle class playing bad dudes with money to spend (on clothes, notably - Westwood/McLaren shops) - not unemployement kids sharing the slums with the immigrants.
What they probably didn't bargain for, is the Maggie Bitcher shock, though.


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Edited by Sean Trane - April 23 2022 at 09:34
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
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