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Sean Trane
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Not that big a fan, but if I must take two albums, Countdown (maybe their proggiest) and Royal Scam (maybe their rockiest) would be it.
If I must take two more, than the debut and Aja would be them TBH, Pretzel, Kati and Gaucho are not really my thing.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Necrotica
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Nice to see some Countdown to Ecstasy love! Your Gold Teeth I and II are my favorite songs on their respective albums, mostly because they have that extra touch of prog on top of the jazz rock sound. To me, the original Your Gold Teeth is like the greatest song that 70s Santana never wrote - much like My Old School is the best song Billy Joel never wrote
Also, I just realized that I never put my favorite SD song in my original comment. Personally I have to go with the funk/R&B stylings of Black Cow, although the title track of Aja gets a special shoutout for its ambition and complexity
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Saperlipopette!
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I have no complaints really. Love Your Gold Teeth II and the rest of Katy Lied... + Can't Buy a Thrill. I like Steely Dan more than Steely Dan like themselves.
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rogerthat
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I agree too that CTE is rather underrated within their catalogue. Though, really, other than the production of Katy Lied, which isn't even as bad as the band themselves insist, what is there to complain about their classic albums! I love the Gold Teeth pt2 as well, that solo is the basis for the hormones vocabulary later found on Aja.
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Saperlipopette!
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If I got a favorite Steely Dan song, it's got to be Your Gold Teeth. Love the lyrics although I rarely give actual song meaning much thought. I usually settle with the feel it provides from picking up some words and sentences here and there. A female gambler?... perhaps a gold digger - at a casino ... throwing your gold teeth on the table, see how they roll... She's all in? I don't know but diggin' the scenery. Dark, misantrophic and highly entertaining. And oh my god what a groove and arrangement. Pure jazz fusion heaven. Absolutely amazing. Still one of their least talked about/loved songs it seems. I have a special relationship with Countdown To Ecstasy in general. While it's understandable that Aja is "everyone's" favorite (I love it too), I prefer the seemingly looser and more relaxed approach of their 1973-incarnation. |
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Well, they did have the great Bernard Purdie on drums, Chuck Rainey on bass and even Wayne Shorter tearing it up on the title track. But yeah, there is something distinct about Aja as compared to their previous albums. The 'rock' aspect of their music is almost completely gone. It's like a luxurious, languid (and bittersweet) amalgam of jazz, funk and soul. The first album of theirs I heard was Pretzel Logic. I couldn't quite crack it at that time and the music did not seem to live up to the billing. And then, a year later, somebody suggested Royal Scam and that did it. And after that, I fell in love with Aja on first listen. And pretty much every album from Countdown to Gaucho. I am still not too hot on Can't Buy A Thrill (Palmer's vocals don't help and maybe Do It Again is the only one that feels like classic Dan already) or the two albums they made after reuniting. But the streak in the middle...that's just astonishing. One of the bands/artists that's eternally in my playlist alongside Stevie Wonder and...you're so going to love this ...Beatles! But at this point, I like Steely more than either of them too. I find their humorous cynicism very agreeable as it is how I cope with life and the general goings on as well. I know that meeting your favourite artists in person can often lead to acute disappointment and the age gap between me and any of these 60s/70s artists wouldn't help but I would still love to be able to meet Fagen one day. It just feels like unlike so many other musicians of the time and especially in the prog rock or related space, he does not believe in magic of black or any other kind or has any messiah complex. He comes across as very on the level...at least apparently (but one never truly knows!).
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Necrotica
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Funny enough, apparently Donald Fagen also said something to that effect when he met Walter Becker. In his words: "I hear this guy practising, and it sounded very professional and contemporary. It sounded like, you know, like a black person, really."
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Necrotica
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Definitely. The production is so incredible that the album sounds like it could have come out yesterday
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Heart of the Matter
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Favorite song: Black Friday
Favorite album: The Royal Scam (replaced by Pretzel Logic sometimes in Autumn) |
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I'm another Steely Dan fan. I think that their original run of albums is astonishingly good, with only Gaucho showing a slight dip in quality. Donald Fagen's first couple of solo albums are good as well, especially The Nightfly,which delivers what Gaucho promised.
They also have a following in RIO/Avant community; Chris Cutler has mentioned liking them several times (he and Steve Hillage were flatmates at one point and both enjoyed a bit of Dan), and Kavus Torabi (Gong, Guapo, Cardiacs...) is also a fan. |
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jamessavik
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It's... interesting Steely Dan should come up. I had to go deal with the driver's license bureaucracy today. While I was waiting I listened to my Steely Dan playlist to keep me sweet dealing with the DMV. Ricky Don't Lose that Number, FM, Deacon Blues, Peg... If you must waste time doing something unpleasant, it is better with Steely Dan.
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Show Biz Kids off and the fantastic way it was sampled by Super Furry Animals into the song 'The Man don't give a F***'
'Do it again' is just one (and there are many) that ooze an almost exotic (especially after a wet, grey UK winter!) honey sensation of sunshine and warm breezes.. but also the music and lyrics are so nuanced and crafted that although i dont listen to them that often, when i do hear a song it always puts me in a good place.
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Rednight
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Ah, yes - Aja. Selected in 2010 by the Library of Congress for preservation in the National Recording Registry.
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When Aja came out in 1977, I was hooked. Peg was all over the FM radio and especially on the black/funk/R&B stations in So Cal that I was into as well. I remember everyone thought these guys were black soul/R&B musicians, not until I got the album that I saw they were crackers .
The musicianship is stellar, masterful song writing skills. The whole of Aja is still my all time fav from them......As well one of the best recording productions, an amazing sounding record.
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I was always aware of Steely Dan and knew a few of their songs but I didn't really appreciate them until I had to learn some of their songs for a band I was in. Kid Charlemagne was one of them and that's probably still my favourite.
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Grumpyprogfan
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One of my all time favorite bands. Been listening to their music since 1975, saw the 1996 tour. Blew me away. No one's music is similar to Steely Dan. They are original.
Favorite songs... could change every day. Deacon Blues, Reelin in the Years, The Caves of Altamira, FM, Black Friday, King of the World, etc. Great thread. Hope it spurs much discussion. |
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Necrotica
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We had one of these threads ages ago, but I thought I'd create an updated version (especially since they're on the site these days).
I hadn't discovered these guys until early 2021, but I'm so glad I eventually gravitated to their incredible songwriting; they might be mostly jazz rock, but I'm not surprised that they're on ProgArchives to be honest. Their pop tendencies have always been combined with sophisticated arrangements and complex melodies, even in their most simplistic works. So I ask, what's your favorite song by Steely Dan, or your favorite cryptic lyric by them? I'd love to know
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