The Best Sci-Fi Movies of All Time |
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Archisorcerus
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I want to say some things about The Matrix's "originality" (which is seemingly the lack thereof). Since The Matrix was shown at the theatres, my anime-maniac roommate at university (who had also been my schoolmate-classmate-deskmate since middle school) was talking about how the Matrix was a Ghost in the Shell rip off. I tried to watch that anime then, but got ultimately bored. That means "what" you do is not enough sometimes. "How" you do it can also be crucial. That's where The Matrix shines. Also please keep in mind that most of such movies target the younger audience, as they get money from them more. Even the most intellectual and intelligent playwrights can add some melodramatic elements into their serious works, just to get more money. I'm sure that I wouldn't have been blown away by The Matrix, if I were as old as most of the forum members here. Edited by Archisorcerus - March 27 2022 at 15:59 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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The Thing is, it's Back to the Future from 1968 to the Inception of 2001: A Space Odyssey - a film that's immaculate in its conception, even though the convoluted plot is still Alien to me.
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Archisorcerus
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^ Lol, that gif is fabulous.
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Ah, James Cameron's non-classic, Avatar. A textbook example of a gilded turd. |
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verslibre
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Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers is pretty much a perfect film, one of the rare exceptions when a remake eclipses its predecessor. He got it down to a science with the paranoia, claustrophobia and the erasure of individuality and humanity as we know it. (Did you watch the 2007 version, with Kidman and Craig, titled simply The Invasion? Disappointing. I can't believe they left out the "scream"!)
I love all those films. I'd probably have a 3-way tie with Clockwork, Blade Runner and the original Alien for sheer atmospheric bliss. And the scores are tops.
I file all of them under "films I never need to watch again."
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Archisorcerus
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^ Avatar was OK, but yes overrated. I agree. At the IMAX, you might change your view though. Some movies really impress at the IMAX theatres. Most people think it should just be a better cinematic experience than at the regular theatres, but I can say that there's a TREMENDOUS difference.
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Cristi
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^ it's a fine movie.
I think Avatar is totally overrated, style over substance, although I admire the effort that was put into that movie.
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Archisorcerus
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I think Inception is one of the most overrated films in history. I watched it twice. First at the cinema. So, this is a subjective view, for sure. I'm a fan of Nolan's many films, including Insomnia. But, not of Inception or his Batman films.
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Cristi
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The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) is a great movie, interesting entertaining and creepy.
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^^I'm sure most think of "Bullet Time" as the defining characteristic when they think innovative. Otherwise, I'm hard pressed to find much else truly innovative. The story's been done before, the action, while impressive choreography, was in line with many others. As for the wire work, I've seen way better in Japanese films.
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Archisorcerus
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Well, technically its camerawork is definitely groundbreaking. You can see that together with the FX and action thing, but it inspired many films that succeeded it, and some of them were not in the vein of the Matrix at all. Also the amalgamation of film noir, sci-fi and adventure was unique in the film, I think. Perhaps Dark City can compete with it, but the Matrix conveys a real philosophy within the sci-fi framework. That cannot be seen in Dark City. It was plain sci-fi/fantasy. Honestly I haven't seen Welt am Draht yet. But I'll do it soon. Really. You made me curious, if that means anything. BTW, The Matrix is not among my absolute favourite movies. I liked Nirvana (1997) and eXistenZ (1999) a lot better. I recall that you and Jeanine also liked the latter. Edited by Archisorcerus - March 27 2022 at 14:27 |
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BaldFriede
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I'm really curious: In what regard do you think "The Matrix" is groundbreaking? Because I don't see it. I can understand why some people love these kind of action movies, but what is so groundbreaking about that movie?
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Invaders From Mars (the original) should have been in the mix. Bought one of those special edition DVDs of it back in the '90s, and it was an awful print. Still a bitchin' film that does not cry out for a remake.
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^ Did I ever say that it is groundbreaking in dealing with issues? You and your partner are repeating the same things over and over again. OK, the Matrix is s real stinker for you. I totally respect that. But repeating the same thing does not make the movie worse than it is, but it makes you (two) look like clinically obsessed persons. Enough is enough, really.
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"Welt am Draht" is a movie split up into two parts because the whole thing is three hours long, which the TV-channel did not want to send in one part. "Welt am Draht" predates "The Matrix" by twenty-six years and deals with similar issues, so how is "The Matrix" groundbreaking (except for some cool FX, which is not what I am looking for in a movie)?
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Archisorcerus
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1-) Welt am Draht is not a movie but a series with 2 epiodes. (IMDb says it is a TV mini series, and Wikipedia says it is a television serial.) 2-) The Matrix is a fantastic and groundbreaking movie. 3-) I didn't make the list myself. Edited by Archisorcerus - March 27 2022 at 10:43 |
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BaldFriede
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I wold like to throw in "Welt am Draht" ("World on a Wire") by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. Here the trailer: It should replace "The Matrix" (which is totally overrated and just an FX-spectacle). And where is "Silent Running"? Or "Phase IV"? "Soylent Green"? "City of the Damned" (the original, not the remake)? "Dark Star"?
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Great list indeed. Many great films, but some that I personally have never been able to enjoy and find rather ridiculous (Planet of the Apes, Jurassic Park...) or that I never really got into (the Star Wars saga and the Star Trek thingies...). From a Hollywoodian classic entertainment point of view the Spielberg movies are classics, indeed, and I very much like Back to the Future, Wall-E and Inception, but they're not my personal favorites. I could vote for at least 8 films from this list (2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, Alien, The Matrix, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Metropolis, Terminator 2, Brazil...). I would add the silent Soviet classic Aelita, by Yakov Protazanov (1924), a really wonderful film... |
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I am definitely an Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) guy, although I do like the original very much as well.
Lots of faves of mine here, and I have seen all of them. My top eight probably are (and while I could vote for all of those, Ill go with the top three there as those have consistently made top lists of mine since I was a teenager -- Brazil and A CLockwork Orange are always compared in my head): A Clockwork Orange Brazil 2001: A Space Odyssey Close Encounters of the Third Kind Planet of the Apes Alien The Thing The Day the Earth Stood Still Starship Troopers I also love, and Ex Machina, and Blade Runner and Metropolis.... Most of these I really like, not a big fan of Terminator 2 (watched it gain recently, prefer the original), Aliens or Back to the Future. EDIT: And any sci-fi best list that does not include ZardoZ can be comfortably sneered at.* ;) * Although, to be honest, it would be more likely to make worst of lists.
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Archisorcerus
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^ Multiple votes are allowed. And I totally agree about Wall-E.
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