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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Marillion are not a band for me. However, I wanted to see what all the fuss and high ratings was about, so I listened. I will give it three stars. All songs sound the same, the tempos are the same, and I don't like the timber of the singer.

I like some of their earlier stuff with Fish, which is quite different from this. I agree with you about this album. It’s okay music, but nothing that stands out to me. I have listened a lot to neo, but in the past few years the interest has faded and the appeal disappeared. It’s mostly just boring listening to.
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I have had three listens, and need a few more before I can reach a final judgement and enough to review/rate. It is at least a four star, and potentially another five star effort from the finest band known to mankind.

Cure and Murder Machines are both bona fide Marillion classics. The rest will take time to fully appreciate, which is always the case with them.
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Have not even received my copy yet. Did not pre-order back in October as shipping from across the pond is crazy expensive. Ordered from US seller once they got inventory and at half the price that was on the pre-order.

From what I have been reading the past couple days seems it will fall under #2, with a bit of #3. The heaviness of the lyrics is putting people off it seems, the past 2 years has been heavy enough. I don't want to relive it every time I spin a record recorded in 2021......

We'll see once I spend a week or two listening.
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Marillion are not a band for me. However, I wanted to see what all the fuss and high ratings was about, so I listened. I will give it three stars. All songs sound the same, the tempos are the same, and I don't like the timber of the singer.
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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

I think it deserves its own discussion thread, being a full-blown release by a classic prog band. I'll summarize the postures towards the album I've found until now:
1) A new masterpiece
2) Good/Excellent, but without breaking new ground
3) Listenable but somehow disappointing
I tend to agree with number two, for the moment.
...And it's your turn now, what do you think?

Give me some time as I just got the album. It's a lot to take in lyrically and it seems pretty heavy. A week more listening should do.


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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

I think it deserves its own discussion thread, being a full-blown release by a classic prog band. I'll summarize the postures towards the album I've found until now:
1) A new masterpiece
2) Good/Excellent, but without breaking new ground
3) Listenable but somehow disappointing
I tend to agree with number two, for the moment.
...And it's your turn now, what do you think?
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Hi,

Kinda strange to see something listed as "but without breaking new ground" ... which I find rather weird.

Let's see ... take an actor and he/she does Shakespeare and then does a card board show for many years. You call that "breaking new ground"? NO. That's acting, and it doesn't matter the tapestry it is it. So a painter, stops using blue and comes up with a "rose" period ... is that "breaking new ground"? NO. A musician plays another song, and this time he adds one chord he had not used before, probably by accident on a different tuning on the guitar ... is that "breaking new ground"? NO.

You might suggest that all of the music and "style" for the band has to change completely, and that is not likely possible, since it is the same folks and combination of minds and talent! That usually does not change a whole lot, and the majority of bands that last this long don't change much ... and we call the new album by the Rolling Stones ... "breaking new ground"? NO.

Marillion has settled into stories and tales with its lyrics, which kinda came from their old days, when FISH came up with a very theatrical style, that many folks thought PG had started, and he HAD NOT. "Breaking new ground"? NO.

From what I have heard in this album it is very well focused on its point, as was the previous one about F.E.A.R and in many ways that is rather nice, instead of having various songs, some of which are about nothing that matters to you or me. "Breaking New Ground" NO.

Makes me question, how much do you really like and care for "progressive music" and the very folks that represent it so well these days, and do not have to resort to bombastic crap to get their point across and still produce wonderful material, and Marillion has earned that reputation over 40 years of a lot of excellent music ... I suppose that if you like the 5th over the 4th is ok, but saying that the 9th, the latest is not as good as the 4th or the 5th? Very weird. Which suggests one more point ... how much have you listened to it to get the feel, other than a quickie?

In that sense, no wonder you are not breaking new ground ... as if you were looking for something for the band to do, and YOU are not a part of the band!
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I think it deserves its own discussion thread, being a full-blown release by a classic prog band. I'll summarize the postures towards the album I've found until now:
1) A new masterpiece
2) Good/Excellent, but without breaking new ground
3) Listenable but somehow disappointing
I tend to agree with number two, for the moment.
...And it's your turn now, what do you think?
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