When was prog labeled?

SteveG wrote: The best way to dispel this myth is by what many have done before. Namely, track down music magazines of the era like Meloidy Maker and New Musical Express and see if the term progressive rock was actually used as a descriptor of this music by the writers of these publications. They did not. Music was described as either rock or pop with no thought in the slightest to any type of sub genre. Groups like Fairport Convention were not even referred to as folk rock in 1969 and 1970 due to the backlash it would have caused by folk purists ...

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It seems Prog never displaced other labels such as Pop, or Rock, more likely just joined them.

^ Probably a Pink Floyd album. 

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The best way to dispel this myth is by what many have done before. Namely, track down music magazines of the era like Meloidy Maker and New Musical Express and see if the term progressive rock was actually used as a descriptor of this music by the writers of these publications. They did not. Music was described as either rock or pop with no thought in the slightest to any type of sub genre. Groups like Fairport Convention were not even referred to as folk rock in 1969 and 1970 due to the backlash it would have caused by folk purists This mentality carried over to other types of rock music. Led Zeppelin was never referred to as blues rock for the same reasons. This is why it's so difficult to find printed sources regarding this question. Once that is understood it becomes easy to see why virtually none exists.

Edited by SteveG - February 23 2022 at 15:56

David_D wrote: David_D wrote: Heart of the Matter wrote: So, by the end of Sixties it was already in use, and spreading after that from Britain to the world (at least in its musical sense). That's the best we may expect to precise the "date", it's not a battle nor a revolution after all. I'd say, by the end of 60's it was in use in the way Macan and Caravan describe it. They are the best sources, we've got here. I don't think, I can see a better conclusion than the one quoted here, so I'm off now.

Now we should discuss when the PA label Indo-Prog/Raga Rock came to be, and why. 

enigmatic wrote: Heart of the Matter wrote: So, by the end of Sixties it was already in use, and spreading after that from Britain to the world (at least in its musical sense). That's the best we may expect to precise the "date", it's not a battle nor a revolution after all. Late 60s but before liner notes to Caravan's debut. Sounds better?

Sounds OK to me. There is still the problem of the semantic variation over time, also discussed here, but we can say that by 1969 some of the acts considered progressive today (at least Caravan) were already progressive then. So, there probably must be a "semantic core" to the term that was already present by then.

Edited by David_D - February 23 2022 at 15:34

^ Thank you Easy Money. These are exactly my views too.