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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15347 |
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Why would anyone possibly think the game is up? In case you haven't realized, once a genre is created it NEVER dies! Yes, they still make classical music, jazz, Indian ragas! And people make $$$ at it! There are more prog bands in existence now than all of the 70s i would guess. Why do so many wanna play the PROG DIED game? LOL
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15216 |
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The question is "what made you think that...?" not "what killed...?"
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7420 |
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Bingo! I was JUST going to say "disco!"
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37595 |
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I would sooner think that the rise of punk was symptomatic (a symptom/ evidence) of Prog's decline in health rather than Punk being the cause of it, and even then I think that would be too simplistic an analysis.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45867 |
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Punk did not kill prog, I don't see how it could have. It was the lack of support from labels, ridicule from the media of the time, a lot of bands honoring contracts and delivering whatever (Love Beach is such an example, also Tormato), bands asked to make their sound more accessible (Gentle Giant, ELO, Yes), some bands going on hiatus or disbanding, bands tired of their former sound (Genesis, or at least Mike Rutherford said so), musicians tired of touring needing a break. Not that black and white...
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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Probably because the Sex Pistols had already broken up and New Wave had already outshined punk by the time The Wall was released.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Cboi Sandlin ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2021 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 461 |
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Why isnt punk rock an option, because thats the right answer
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Online Points: 5734 |
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none of the above
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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Okay I love Genesis' pop stuff but that's still hilarious!
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9111 |
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As recent annual polls showed, there was a substantial lull in the 1985-1990 period, but before that and after that plenty worthwhile stuff. In terms of any degree of critical/mass acceptance, one could argue it was either punk in 1976 or arena rock around the same time that scuttled prog as a pop culture leader, with only a few exceptions like "The Wall", by which time Pink Floyd was known by all, and only seen by some as prog. By the time Genesis were big they were for the most part not prog. Ditto for the arena rockers like Styx, ELO, Queen, and others who never were prog but helped kill it anyway, like REO.
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^ If that was the case, prog would have been still born... ![]() I got into prog when neo-prog was starting, so for me it has never been over. I had heard Pink Floyd, some Genesis, Kayak, Focus, Ekseption a.o. before but wasn't aware at that time of the "progressive" label (and then, if I remember well, "symphonic rock" was a more generally used label in the record stores - in the Netherlands). But, if there is one major sign of the waning of the first prog wave, it must be that ELP album cover... |
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The invention of spaghetti sauce.
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Having been the manager of a record store from 1970-1980 ; I feel when disco edged into the scene around 1977 and suddenly everybody had to "boogie down" and buy only maxi-singles, that was the death of prog related bands. Furthermore some proggers jumped on the disco bandwagon with feeble attempts at making "big twelve inch" beat heavy music. Very sad. You know who you are.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43874 |
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Unless some of us people happen to be fans of Jethro Tull.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45867 |
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I don't think neo-prog is a watered down version of prog, what IQ, Twelfth Night and Marillion were doing in 1982-1983 was the proof that people still wanted to listen to prog (a bad word back then
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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I don't think I ever thought the best was over. I took each and every example you listed above in stride...ok, in disappointed stride. But I can remember exactly where I was and what I felt the first time I saw the Love Beach cover in the record store. It was not a good feeling, although side two kept me from out right crying.
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The second Just for Fun-poll disguised as a Prog poll in a few days. But the real game almost up was a matter of zeitgeist: the classic bands fell into decline in 1978 and the momentum of punk/new wave in 1977 was another severe blow.
No vote since one option is sorely missing here: the retirement of left hand of Tony Banks sometime in the early 80's.
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Offline Points: 5230 |
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Good grief, it isn't over! Stronger than ever these days😎
Some of you people need to stop living in the past! 🙄 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19016 |
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80/81 In 1980 you had Drama by Yes, Permanent Waves by Rush and Duke by Genesis (which still had some very proggy stuff on it). In 1981 you had Discipline by King Crimson, Moving Pictures by Rush and Nude by Camel. In 1982 you had Asia's debut and Signals by Rush. I still like these two but they aren't as prog as the others I mentioned in the two years before them. In 1982 you also had the beginnings of neo prog which could be considered a watered down version of prog.
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There should've been an "Other" option because the thing that made me think that great music was coming to an end during the late '70s was the growing popularity of Reggae on the radio station I listened to.
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