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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I totally agree with you. Trump might even forego the election completely by declaring a state of emergency for some reason that calls for him to be president for life

I, too, worry about that, with the conclusions of the Senate.  Cry
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^ With some of the Republicans claiming that he can do whatever he wants, as long as it's for the good of the country, that's always a possibility.
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The thing that worries me more than Trump being reelected for another 4 years is him beeing reelected for another 8 or 12 years after that. I'm not joking here. Trump has remarked on this himself repeatedly.
The way is already set: all checks and balances have been disabled anyway, all key positions have loyal political allies installed, his critics have been all but disabled, the conservatives are standing behind him, he has no consequences for any actions to fear from anyone (see the impeachment process), so the road seems clear for any required alteration of the constitution.
The school bully has distributed the stolen lunch money amongst his friends and promises to continue doing so. What's to stop him? Elections? Dream on!

I totally agree with you. Trump might even forego the election completely by declaring a state of emergency for some reason that calls for him to be president for life


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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ agree. Let’s be honest, if the nominee isn’t Bernie, we’re getting 4 more years of trump. And if the nominee isn’t Bernie, it’s gonna have to be a no vote for me.

Even if you don't want to vote in the presidential election, at least make sure to vote in congressional, state-level and/or local elections if they're held in your location. There's potential to bring about small forms of positive change (or at least avoid further harm) even if you have no faith in whoever occupies the White House.
This is absolutely crucial and something that I've been saying for the last 15 years or so. Both parties are guilty of laying down during the midterms. This is something that the Republicans know well and have countered with gerrymandering, voter blocking, etc.
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Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

The thing that worries me more than Trump being reelected for another 4 years is him beeing reelected for another 8 or 12 years after that. I'm not joking here. Trump has remarked on this himself repeatedly.
The way is already set: all checks and balances have been disabled anyway, all key positions have loyal political allies installed, his critics have been all but disabled, the conservatives are standing behind him, he has no consequences for any actions to fear from anyone (see the impeachment process), so the road seems clear for any required alteration of the constitution.
The school bully has distributed the stolen lunch money amongst his friends and promises to continue doing so. What's to stop him? Elections? Dream on!
Well, I really don't think that he will stick around that long. He'll just get the Russians to help either Ivanka or Jared get elected after he's done.
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The thing that worries me more than Trump being reelected for another 4 years is him beeing reelected for another 8 or 12 years after that. I'm not joking here. Trump has remarked on this himself repeatedly.
The way is already set: all checks and balances have been disabled anyway, all key positions have loyal political allies installed, his critics have been all but disabled, the conservatives are standing behind him, he has no consequences for any actions to fear from anyone (see the impeachment process), so the road seems clear for any required alteration of the constitution.
The school bully has distributed the stolen lunch money amongst his friends and promises to continue doing so. What's to stop him? Elections? Dream on!
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ agree. Let’s be honest, if the nominee isn’t Bernie, we’re getting 4 more years of trump. And if the nominee isn’t Bernie, it’s gonna have to be a no vote for me.

Even if you don't want to vote in the presidential election, at least make sure to vote in congressional, state-level and/or local elections if they're held in your location. There's potential to bring about small forms of positive change (or at least avoid further harm) even if you have no faith in whoever occupies the White House.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Yeah Bern would eat Don for lunch.   What needs to happen is the independents swing to Bernie, "give him a shot" like they gave Trump.  

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^ Yeah Bern would eat Don for lunch.   What needs to happen is the independents swing to Bernie, "give him a shot" like they gave Trump.  

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ agree. Let’s be honest, if the nominee isn’t Bernie, we’re getting 4 more years of trump. And if the nominee isn’t Bernie, it’s gonna have to be a no vote for me.

Oh there's no doubt about it (except for not voting-- you have to stay engaged even if you're not thrilled about it).  Even with Bernie as the nominee I fear Trump gets another four.



You know David, we shouldn't sell Bernie short until he gets into a debate with Trump. I think he'd run over him. And that makes votes.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ agree. Let’s be honest, if the nominee isn’t Bernie, we’re getting 4 more years of trump. And if the nominee isn’t Bernie, it’s gonna have to be a no vote for me.

Oh there's no doubt about it (except for not voting-- you have to stay engaged even if you're not thrilled about it).  Even with Bernie as the nominee I fear Trump gets another four.



Yup, gotta make peace with Trump then!
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ agree. Let’s be honest, if the nominee isn’t Bernie, we’re getting 4 more years of trump. And if the nominee isn’t Bernie, it’s gonna have to be a no vote for me.

Oh there's no doubt about it (except for not voting-- you have to stay engaged even if you're not thrilled about it).  Even with Bernie as the nominee I fear Trump gets another four.





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Speaking as a robot I am sick and tired of being discriminated against with these captchas...

 
For anyone who seriously doesn't understand what Twitler is all about I highly recommend Joy-Ann Reid's book The Man Who Sold America. In her introduction she compares Assholini to a Batman villain. It is so spot on and scary...



"Donald Trump seems ripped right out of that comic book supervillain universe.  With h is cantilever hairstyle, weirdly long signature neckties, bizarre syntax, and penchant for slapping his surname on everything he's connected with-from buildings and golf courses to bottled water, board games, and, for a to,e, a sham "university" that promised anyone could learn to be just like "The Donald"-Trump and the cast of characters surrounding him could fit right in with Joker, Riddler, Penguin, and Lex Luthor."



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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Free speech is only free sometimes.  


Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from being judged for the things you say.
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True. And I never claimed otherwuse. However, some uncomfortable truths about Islam cannot be voiced without fatwas being issued and people being murdered.
Yeah, it's only safe to argue about politics. For now, at least. That may change.
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Free speech is only free sometimes.  


Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from being judged for the things you say.
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True. And I never claimed otherwuse. However, some uncomfortable truths about Islam cannot be voiced without fatwas being issued and people being murdered.
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I can't write what I want to write without being called lots of names, so I won't bother. Free speech is only free sometimes.

BTW, I wasn't going to wrote anything negative about Trump, my energies lie elsewhere. The USA got what they deserve in that they got what they voted for.   
Some of my best fiends are Trumpers. You're entitled to your opinion as long as you don't live in the Fox and Breitbart bubble. I like a few of things that Trump does, just not way he goes about doing them.
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Free speech is only free sometimes.  


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I can't write what I want to write without being called lots of names, so I won't bother. Free speech is only free sometimes.

BTW, I wasn't going to wrote anything negative about Trump, my energies lie elsewhere. The USA got what they deserve in that they got what they voted for.   
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

^ agree. Let’s be honest, if the nominee isn’t Bernie, we’re getting 4 more years of trump. And if the nominee isn’t Bernie, it’s gonna have to be a no vote for me.
I don't understand this logic of a no vote if it's not Bernie. That is the same as a yes vote for Trump. So, you actually prefer Trump over any other Democratic candidate. I don't understand it but it doesn't surprise me either. We Dems have always been our own worst enemies. I'm sure that most Republican congressmen and senators hate Trump but that group sticks together, no matter what. That's something that the Dems will never be able to do. That's why Mr. Trump is president and will probably continue to be for another 4 years.

I don't really understand the "Bernie or bust" logic myself. I'd love to see Bernie in there, though if the Senate and House don't move strongly in the blue, Bernie's not going to get the things done he wants to. It's an imperfect world. I guess swallowing the pill of voting for the next best candidate doesn't come easily to some?

I'm not so sure Bernie will win against Trump either. The Republicans have a well-oiled propaganda machine and they are going to treat the words "Communist" and "socialist" as derogatory terms, like they have for decades. And they're going to make it stick to him and scare people (like they always do). The bizarre thing is Bernie is neither of those things. If any thing, he (and Elizabeth Warren) are the closest we have to what were once known as New Deal Democrats. They are essentially taking the ideals of FDR and expanding upon them. FDR's policies (plus labor unions) are one of the reasons we even have a middle class in the U.S.

The other "elephant in the room" is Vladimir Putin. Does anyone seriously think Putin isn't going to go through the trouble to rig the election for Trump? Anyone want to take a gander at why the Republicans aren't doing a whole lot on election security? 

Furthermore, on the rare possibility that voters overwhelming vote blue, does anyone think Trump will leave office peacefully? His favorite word is "hoax." Putin wants the American democracy to implode. He's got the right puppet in place for this to happen. We are now a banana republic. 
The other elephant in the room is that Trump is stock piling the courts with inexperienced conservative judges, in Federal Courts as well the Supreme Court, at a record rate and will do so if he's elected again. So, even if when he's out in 2024, his legacy will last for last for another 40-50 years. And that's why we have to stick together and vote him out, no matter who the Dems run. Be it Bernie or his housekeeper.
 
As I've said before, we're own worst enemies. And only an act of God will make people see the light.
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