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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18066 |
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I disagree with pickles and ice cream! So a band without keyboards (let's say Guru Guru) can't be progressive. A band without a drummer (several folks bands!) can not be progressive! A band without a bass guitar ... can't be progressive! All those folks musicians are playing sheep dip'age! A band without a singer can not be progressive! That means we have to listen to inane lyrics and stupid ideas, that are not anywhere near literary quality and have no weight or value in them whatsoever. Try Stairway to Nowhere for a bit! This, should be about the whole thing, the whole piece of music, not that it has to have all 4 or 5 of those things. I'm really tired of this "racist" comment about "progressive" music, and how it can not be this or that without having the right color (always funny and weird), the long hair (no curls or braids or _____), or some other idiotic comments that have nothing to do with the composition of the work itself. So, it can't be a "symphony" without 12 violins, 4 bassoons, 3 piccolos, 2 cellos, 2 flutes, 2 of those large drum things that never get played, several chairs of course, a few women in the orchestra ... women in progressive music ... oh, my gawd, those folks at PA will poo their pants! And a conductor at the front, since RW is too busy playing another synth instead! Maybe the ghost of Mr. Lord will come buy to conduct the thing, but he prefers to play! The whole definition has become such a joke that it has gotten sick, not musically intelligent at all, and on top of it you get a goon saying that some instruments make "progressive music" ... and it's like saying that the folks behind it are just a bunch of mannequins showing off the new fashions. C'mon folks ... get better and smarter than that! You've been at this a long time and still stick to the same silly definition that is not about music at all ... it's about a couple of bands ONLY!
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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Sorry I hope you didn't think I was being patronising, I certainly wasn't meaning to be.. I meant to put a winky face after but am not allowed it seems! Your reply is spot on and exactly what I meant (in a light hearted way). As Nogbad said 'its not in his top 30 but still has the all the hallmarks of THE Quintessential 'Prog' lp' and I think that's what the OP was looking for, not our personal favourites. |
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7412 |
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I had to look up the meaning of "prig," it is a rather hilarious mistake! Well done!!
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Pawn Hearts - overblown and wonderful
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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probably "Fairy Tales" by Mother Gong
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Boojieboy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2016 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 664 |
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There's no one definitive prog album for me, and I'm happy about that.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21319 |
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Mr Bungle. |
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CTTE for me, though it hardly makes my top 30.
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I'm with the majority on this one. Close to The Edge checks all the boxes.
SEBTP, TLLDOB and TAAB wold also be good selections.
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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I LOVE Fairyport!!!! But they are asking for the quintessential 'Prog' (got it right this time!) lp not 'Progressive' lp (ok ok lets not start up that old chestnut again I hear you cry!)
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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Man, some typos are just.. well weird, ironic, a bit spooky... you see my inner self just didn't really believe what I was trying to say.. and as is often said, the truth will out!
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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Wigwam Fairyport for me. Not just prog, it includes everything I need from the music!
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7412 |
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![]() Tony Kaye didn't use Mellotron, it was Rick who brought that sound to the band. Moraz didn't seem to use Mellotron as much as Wakeman, inventing his own version (using laser discs instead of magnetic tapes). It was called the "Orchestron." Real Mellotron is a groaning, unpredictable mess that lends a great deal of drama to prog music. Since the tapes were recordings of humans playing notes on real instruments, one can hear bow inflections, breath and other subtle sounds that give the 'tron a very organic, human sound vs. the synths used by guys like Geoff Downes (ugh!). Also, Bruf brought a real jazz-swing to the drumming of CTTE, it remains one of his best works. The entire band was "on" for that recording, and Eddie Offord did a fine job of bringing it all together.
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Yep. Can't wait for the rest of the world to catch up to the brilliance of that album. 3.90 average rating. (spit icon)
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Close to the Edge for me too.
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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I agree with the above entirely; certainly Yes and most likely 'Close to the edge' is the most quintessential 'Prig' lp.
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7412 |
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Close To The Edge meets all of these criteria for me. Few bands have mastered that formula, particularly the vocal harmonization.
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