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Posted: August 26 2017 at 16:31
Saperlipopette! wrote:
micky wrote:
awesome!!!!! I love a man who is over even my head. Time to start a new PA's tradition... everytime Pedro posts.... everyone takes a shot.... or throws down the rest of his beer.
Done.... and popping open another. wooo hoooo!!!!
Ok again its a little judgmental over anyone with a different approach than himself, but that's to be expected. Still this time Pedro's post made perfect sense to me and I believe-or I know that what he writes is pretty much correct. I don't know... its nice to drink beer, be unpretentious, have a good time and all that but I don't think its nessecary to make fun of Moshkito's posts without even trying to understand. Among the unsympathetic underestimating of others (that would be great if he just stopped doing completely) I've read plenty of valuable things he has written too. And to me this is one of the more meaningful posts.
oh how interesting...
you think that was Bad Micky? Picking on poor misunderstood Pedro.
tsk tsk.... unlike my good side... my bad side is very direct. If I was out to pick on Pedro.. he'd know it. I'm not big on mincing words when confronted with that which displeases me haha. Pedro however has been around enough to know that my good side is not that much better place to be than my bad side. It isn't enough for me to tell him, or anyone.. great post. Any forum simpleton can say that.
Think of that man... Pedro is the proud owner of the first and only PA's drinking game. That isn't an insult.. it's a f**king HONOR man. Given to one of the jewels and gems of the site. Pedro is a big boy.. and knows what the score is here.
Good post?... f**king boring.... and meaningless. A drinking game? Priceless
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 12:53
Manuel wrote:
Don't know.When I first got interested in music, I was introduced to Jimmy Hendrix, Cream, The Moody Blues, etc. My first LP was Jethro Tull"s "Stand Up", and I never really got into anything else, until later, when Jazz, Classical, Folk, World music called my attention. I could never get into the "Radio" music, and it has never caught my interest.
More or less this ^
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 12:10
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I hear it was horrible. Just like this
Haha.
I know that's a joke, but just add some fine stuff from 1964.
We also had jazz's Yusef Lateef's Eastsen Sounds, Herbie Hancock's Empyrean Isles, and Eric Dolphy's Out to Lunch. And we had stuff like The Holy Modal Rounders. Plus Stockahausen's Mixtur. And in 1964 we also had soundtracks such as Ennio Morricone's A Fistful of Dollars and I Malamondo, as well as John Barry's Goldfinger.
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 11:48
micky wrote:
awesome!!!!! I love a man who is over even my head. Time to start a new PA's tradition... everytime Pedro posts.... everyone takes a shot.... or throws down the rest of his beer.
Done.... and popping open another. wooo hoooo!!!!
Ok again its a little judgmental over anyone with a different approach than himself, but that's to be expected. Still this time Pedro's post made perfect sense to me and I believe-or I know that what he writes is pretty much correct. I don't know... its nice to drink beer, be unpretentious, have a good time and all that but I don't think its nessecary to make fun of Moshkito's posts without even trying to understand. Among the unsympathetic underestimating of others (that would be great if he just stopped doing completely) I've read plenty of valuable things he has written too. And to me this is one of the more meaningful posts.
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 10:51
awesome!!!!! I love a man who is over even my head. Time to start a new PA's tradition... everytime Pedro posts.... everyone takes a shot.... or throws down the rest of his beer.
Done.... and popping open another. wooo hoooo!!!!
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 10:40
Hi,
Hard to think that one "something" in music created the world ... and then there was light and a stage and some more bs that we decided to call "progressive".
If you listen to music around the world, instead of just one culture or two, you will find that music has been "progressive" for hundreds of years, and that considering Stravinsky "progressive" during HIS TIME, is just about the same as we look at our "progressive" and consider it so important, that life could not exist before it. The "new" attitudes and abilities and exposition of it, was astounding to say the least, with youngsters that were capable of doing music with more ability than many folks with decades of study and work.
The progressions and newer material in the 20th century, were probably the most widely varied of any century prior, and the 20th century will likely be remembered as the one time when music exploded, with more variations and "styles" than we could possibly imagine.
But this colonial thinking, is kinda sad ... the world was there before and will be there after it. We just might call it something else other than "progressive".
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 07:23
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Sure but just because Aaron Copeland incorporated a folk tune into his composition doesn't make him any less classical. Prog made the differences stand out. It was obvious there was other stuff in there.
Not sure what point you are trying to make. Doesn't make it any less classical? Uh... well it to me it certainly makes most music composed during the romantic era quite a different listening experience than composers of the classical period. The way I see it in both jazz and within the classical tradition its easy (most of the time) to hear when a composition is based on a folk tune or "foreign" traditions/scales... - and by that incorporating another "language of sound" rather than mainly taking inspiration from its own established tradition. Much like rock does when we call it prog rock.
Rock was rock n roll, jazz was jazz, classical was classical and folk was folk. No one thought of combining them and they never really intersected much(if at all). Folk rock does predate prog though and so does classical music in pop and rock but prog mixed things up even more and put them all in a blender.
Jazz was pretty much "world music" right from the very beginning interpreting folk tunes (and popular songs) from all over the world + incorporating classical themes.
-and have you ever heard of Hungarian Dances (Brahms), Romanian Folk Dances (Bartok), Norwegian Dances (Grieg)? - to name a few obvious ones.
Sure but just because Aaron Copeland incorporated a folk tune into his composition doesn't make him any less classical. Prog made the differences stand out. It was obvious there was other stuff in there.
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Posted: August 25 2017 at 16:22
I remember it well.
I was in my late teens when prog first emerged, just about to leave public school to enter the hallowed colleges of one of Britain's most ancient universities to study the universe and everything else.
And before prog, musically life was dull and dominated by the 3 minute single. I didn't like most of it.
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Posted: August 25 2017 at 05:06
Rhythm and blues was already a mix up of blues and rock'n'roll, because blues didn't have drums in the beginning. So that's already a progtendency in the 1950's
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Posted: August 25 2017 at 04:54
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Rock was rock n roll, jazz was jazz, classical was classical and folk was folk. No one thought of combining them and they never really intersected much(if at all). Folk rock does predate prog though and so does classical music in pop and rock but prog mixed things up even more and put them all in a blender.
Jazz was pretty much "world music" right from the very beginning interpreting folk tunes (and popular songs) from all over the world + incorporating classical themes.
-and have you ever heard of Hungarian Dances (Brahms), Romanian Folk Dances (Bartok), Norwegian Dances (Grieg)? - to name a few obvious ones.
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