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Mascodagama 
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 Posted: January 19 2017 at 06:54 |
 Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Gotta love a good, smart, scientific debate.
"Tidal waves are upon us. Mankind is doomed. I feel it in my guts, we are condemned! We will pay for our sins against Gaia!"
You are talking about rapture and judgment day...show me hard proof God exists.
You are talking about men destroying the earth...show me hard proof it is so.
Clowns to the left. Jokers to the right. |
If you actually want a good, smart, scientific debate then why don't you start it off by making a post that contains some element of reasoning, evidence or indeed coherent thought of any kind? Because on the basis of what you've contributed to this thread so far you come off as an opinionated, arrogant buffoon who is trolling the forum for laughs. Not much point in debating with someone like that.
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 06:31 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Gotta love a good, smart, scientific debate.
"Tidal waves are upon us. Mankind is doomed. I feel it in my guts, we are condemned! We will pay for our sins against Gaia!"
You are talking about rapture and judgment day...show me hard proof God exists.
You are talking about men destroying the earth...show me hard proof it is so.
Clowns to the left. Jokers to the right. |
So the evidence published by climate scientists the world over isn't proof as far as your concerned? You're equating religious psychosis with science. Good luck with that.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Dean
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 06:10 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Gotta love a good, smart, scientific debate.
"Tidal waves are upon us. Mankind is doomed. I feel it in my guts, we are condemned! We will pay for our sins against Gaia!"
You are talking about rapture and judgment day...show me hard proof God exists.
You are talking about men destroying the earth...show me hard proof it is so.
Clowns to the left. Jokers to the right. |
And your point is... Gravity isn't real the Earth sucks?
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 04:06 |
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Gotta love a good, smart, scientific debate.
"Tidal waves are upon us. Mankind is doomed. I feel it in my guts, we are condemned! We will pay for our sins against Gaia!"
You are talking about rapture and judgment day...show me hard proof God exists.
You are talking about men destroying the earth...show me hard proof it is so.
Clowns to the left. Jokers to the right.
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Kingsnake
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 01:50 |
I voted wrong, because of the misleading title and the pollquestion. My Yes should be a No. Men are destroying the planet. And as far as I know, only far-right idiots think otherwise (Trump, Wilders, etc.)
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 01:31 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
I just voted the wrong way because the question in the actual poll reverses the question in the thread title. Yeah, I didn't read the poll question, but why do it that way to start with? |
Me too
Men are destroying the planet |
I'm glad to hear. Not that we're destroying the planet - but that many of us did the same mistake and it partly explains the absurd poll results.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 23:20 |
Mascodagama wrote:
I just voted the wrong way because the question in the actual poll reverses the question in the thread title. Yeah, I didn't read the poll question, but why do it that way to start with? |
Me too
Men are destroying the planet
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 22:04 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Not so sure about who is the denser North or South
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I will say the density remains the thickest on this forum. |
They say the darkest ice is the thickest..............
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
and I need the knits, the double knits!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 22:00 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Not so sure about who is the denser North or South
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I will say the density remains the thickest on this forum.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:58 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice? |
Heavens no! I am not at all worried about the Antarctic ice, because it's too far south to concern me. And it's very dense ice, not unlike some posters on this forum. |
Ah good, so the melting there and the imminent split of of the largest Ice Berg is history is OK
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/06/giant-iceberg-poised-to-break-off-from-antarctic-shelf-larsen-c
Yeah Don't worry sea levels will only rise in the Northern Hemisphere anyway ............ 
Not so sure about who is the denser North or South
Edited by EddieRUKiddingVarese - January 18 2017 at 21:58
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:54 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice? |
Heavens no! I am not at all worried about the Antarctic ice, because it's too far south to concern me. And it's very dense ice, not unlike some posters on this forum.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:50 |
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So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice?
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
and I need the knits, the double knits!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:38 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
We've had the warmest year in recorded history in 2016. Several of the warmest years have occurred in the last decade. There are 7 billion people on the planet, nearly all burning some form of fossil fuel. The arctic ice is melting at an alarming rate.
I would rather err on the side of caution. I would use my perception and experiences to say that humans are indeed adversely affecting the planet. In my youth, I saw rivers in Detroit and Cleveland on fire. I've seen great gouts of man-made smog envelope cities (so bad that people had to wear surgical masks to walk about outside). I've seen soot covering cars in the morning in areas of cities with heavy manufacturing. As I stated, I would rather err on the side of caution and make sure my children and their children live without the threat of environmental disasters that could have been easily prevented if not for greed.
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As long as your not worried about the Antarctic Ice all is well I guess.................. |
I have read more on the problems in the Arctic. It is of more interest to me, since I have been there.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:35 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
We've had the warmest year in recorded history in 2016. Several of the warmest years have occurred in the last decade. There are 7 billion people on the planet, nearly all burning some form of fossil fuel. The arctic ice is melting at an alarming rate.
I would rather err on the side of caution. I would use my perception and experiences to say that humans are indeed adversely affecting the planet. In my youth, I saw rivers in Detroit and Cleveland on fire. I've seen great gouts of man-made smog envelope cities (so bad that people had to wear surgical masks to walk about outside). I've seen soot covering cars in the morning in areas of cities with heavy manufacturing. As I stated, I would rather err on the side of caution and make sure my children and their children live without the threat of environmental disasters that could have been easily prevented if not for greed.
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As long as your not worried about the Antarctic Ice all is well I guess..................
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
and I need the knits, the double knits!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:25 |
We've had the warmest year in recorded history in 2016. Several of the warmest years have occurred in the last decade. There are 7 billion people on the planet, nearly all burning some form of fossil fuel. The arctic ice is melting at an alarming rate.
I would rather err on the side of caution. I would use my perception and experiences to say that humans are indeed adversely affecting the planet. In my youth, I saw rivers in Detroit and Cleveland on fire. I've seen great gouts of man-made smog envelope cities (so bad that people had to wear surgical masks to walk about outside). I've seen soot covering cars in the morning in areas of cities with heavy manufacturing. As I stated, I would rather err on the side of caution and make sure my children and their children live without the threat of environmental disasters that could have been easily prevented if not for greed.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:54 |
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here. |
In terms of being impartial in identifying and solving/ resolving issues Scientist are conflicted, it is in their interests to sprook and even exaggerate issues to keep themselves employed an sometime even to fake results to continue funding............. |
Fake results? They've been hiding the glaciers in their sheds all these years? Seriously?
I didn't say I was talking about global warming here but that fact remains that Scientists are conflicted- remember cold fusion............. Cause I do!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a20454/in-cold-fusion-20-whos-scamming-whom/
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:50 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here. |
In terms of being impartial in identifying and solving/ resolving issues Scientist are conflicted, it is in their interests to sprook and even exaggerate issues to keep themselves employed an sometime even to fake results to continue funding............. |
Fake results? They've been hiding the glaciers in their sheds all these years? Seriously?
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:29 |
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here. |
In terms of being impartial in identifying and solving/ resolving issues Scientist are conflicted, it is in their interests to sprook and even exaggerate issues to keep themselves employed an sometime even to fake results to continue funding.............
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:19 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:13 |
It was all the Illuminati!!!!
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