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Points: 4812 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2016 at 11:23
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:


The Big Generator is especially popular with my women friends.
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Points: 6874 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2016 at 09:54
I think YES's Big Generator is in their top 10 best albums.  And I'm not alone.  Many of my friends feel the same way.   The Big Generator is especially popular with my women friends.
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Points: 4812 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2016 at 18:35
Originally posted by A_Flower A_Flower wrote:

I find Shine On You Crazy Diamond quite overrated
Leagues less overrated than the majority of The Wall. I can sit through Wish You Were Here as a whole, but that can't be said for that 1979 entry.
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Points: 20696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2016 at 12:28
Originally posted by SpookyGhost SpookyGhost wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Might be weird, but I don't think Santana should be considered prog. They have their unique sound, no question about it, but it's more classic rock with a latin beat than prog-rock.
Also, a lot of the metal bands are somehow considered prog, which is a long stretch by far, since they show very little innovation or uniqueness.



I didn't even know Santana was a prog band in the first place

Not an unusual opinion btw.....but they are listed here as jazz fusion....a sub genre...., but there are many bands here as prog related; The Who, Led Zep, BOC,  etc that probably don't belong here and others that should be but aren't.
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Originally posted by Scorpius Scorpius wrote:

Gentle Giant is better than Rush on many fronts
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Originally posted by Scorpius Scorpius wrote:

Originally posted by WeepingElf WeepingElf wrote:

Steven Wilson, Haken and nu prog in general are vastly overrated, and bands like Mastodon, Meshuggah, Periphery or Tool aren't prog at all.

Finally I find someone who shares the same opinion as me! I hate Steve Wilson, and Tool is overrated and shouldnt be considered prog.


At last, someone who agrees with me! I thought I was going nuts - just about everyone around seems to be just drunk of Steven Wilson and consider Tool a prog band, even though the latter are IMHO as much prog as for instance Velvet Underground or Throbbing Gristle are.
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Originally posted by Scorpius Scorpius wrote:

The Final cut deserves to be a Pink Floyd Album
You are very good.
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"Time" by ELO is a really good synth-pop album
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Might be weird, but I don't think Santana should be considered prog. They have their unique sound, no question about it, but it's more classic rock with a latin beat than prog-rock.
Also, a lot of the metal bands are somehow considered prog, which is a long stretch by far, since they show very little innovation or uniqueness.



I didn't even know Santana was a prog band in the first place
I don't know what to put here
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Originally posted by WeepingElf WeepingElf wrote:

Steven Wilson, Haken and nu prog in general are vastly overrated, and bands like Mastodon, Meshuggah, Periphery or Tool aren't prog at all.

Finally I find someone who shares the same opinion as me! I hate Steve Wilson, and Tool is overrated and shouldnt be considered prog.
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Atom Heart mother is one of the best prog albums ever.
The Final cut deserves to be a Pink Floyd Album
I dont like Suppers Ready that much
Gentle Giant is better than Rush on many fronts
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

A thread to share any opinions you have on any aspect of the genre that are unconventional or not commonly held. Is there a frequently disliked piece of music that you think is a masterpiece? Do you believe that a certain part of prog history went differently than is often told? How about an artist that you believe should/shouldn't be on this site for odd reasons?

My own example is that my favourite song off of In The Court of The Crimson King is Moonchild. 

Please keep the discussion respectful and try not to reduce it to just "I hate ____ band because they suck".

Thread hijacked by a discussion on sexism.
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

If you guys have trouble understanding the reasoning behind PAs inclusion of RPI as a genre of prog rock, then why not read up on it? 
It's all right hereSmile


Cheers, Dave....I didn't have the patience, the frame of mind or deodorant strong enough to last how long it would take to explain the differences this time around (plus my back is killing me at the moment!), so nice save, pal!



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Points: 2223 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 15:23
I never saw this as sexist.
I believe my advice was just to find a woman who was a prog fan in the first place and save yourself a lot of work.
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Points: 1774 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 14:09
Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:



"How do you convince your girlfriend to listen to prog?"

I'm not quite sure how this is sexist. This could easily be said by anyone who wants their significant other to enjoy the music they like. It's not saying anything like "women shouldn't listen to prog", it's someone trying to encourage their girlfriend to enjoy the same experience. Can this be explained to me?

Yeah, I don't get how it's sexist either. It's just like asking how to get a friend into prog, it's simply advise for getting whomever into the same music.
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Points: 1505 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 13:48
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:



"How do you convince your girlfriend to listen to prog?"

I'm not quite sure how this is sexist. This could easily be said by anyone who wants their significant other to enjoy the music they like. It's not saying anything like "women shouldn't listen to prog", it's someone trying to encourage their girlfriend to enjoy the same experience. Can this be explained to me?

Edited by aglasshouse - June 06 2016 at 13:50
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Points: 1774 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 13:44
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:


"Women cannot play drums, it is too exhausting for them."

they never heard my wife play

Apparently they've never heard Kittie.
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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 13:16
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:


"Women cannot play drums, it is too exhausting for them."

they never heard my wife play


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Points: 1840 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 12:55
Sorry for 'hijacking' the thread, but because the question was raised, I also wanted to give a comment on that: It is  not really a PA problem (because the Admins take care of that racists, sexists and the likes soon disappear, thanks Admins!), but a problem of the prog world in general. Single opinions, that shine through on PA only reflect this situation. Some of the things I have already read here on this forum:

"Women cannot play drums, it is too exhausting for them."

"How do you convince your girlfriend to listen to prog?"

Edited by Formentera Lady - June 06 2016 at 12:57
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Points: 1840 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2016 at 12:03
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:


and I also like the solo albums of Roger Hodgson.  Tongue
 
Me too, including the much berated Hai Hai album, though I have yet to hear his Open the Door album.

Then I can really recommend to listen to Open the Door. I think it is as good as In the Eye of the Storm, while Hai Hai was quite a letdown IMHO.
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