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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
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Points: 19535
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 20:11 |
Svetonio wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
(....) those you are profiting with in Bandcamp...(...)
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I told you several times that I don't work for Bandcamp.
And no once I asked you to show a proof of your assertion that I work for Bandcamp as a bot, and you did not have any proof; in real life, you are an renowned lawyer as you said, so you should know that the false accusation is something bad.I'm very sorry because you don't like Bandcamp for some reason, but it's a legal stream & download site and, consenquently, those Bandcamp links are allowed at the Prog Archives. Bye!
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1.- Yeah...You don't work in Bandcamp, also pigs fly and Tito was a saint. 2.- I like Bandcamp, I don't like you
You are harming new bands translating the rejection people feel for you, to them.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 06 2015 at 20:11
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Atkingani
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: October 21 2005
Location: Terra Brasilis
Status: Offline
Points: 12288
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 15:47 |
First and second rounds were really funny and revealing. The other rounds were less frantic.
Maybe it's too late but grouping songs in batches of 4 'till the end might be very interesting.
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Guigo
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 66264
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 15:28 |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
Forum & Site Admin Group
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team
Joined: March 16 2007
Location: Boston
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Points: 20850
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 15:18 |
It was indeed a lot of fun, particularly in the early rounds, much like March Madness or the World Cup group stages. Well done micky and Raff.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
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Points: 24429
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 15:05 |
rushfan4 wrote:
FWIW, despite my disappointment with the results, I do want to send a hardy thank you and some micky's way for running the tournaments. Although, I may not have agreed with most of your comments nor cared for your "college spirit", I did appreciate having inspirations to check out some of the unfamiliar acts. Not enough free time to check them all out, but maybe some day.
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 66264
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 15:01 |
FWIW, despite my disappointment with the results, I do want to send a hardy thank you and some micky's way for running the tournaments. Although, I may not have agreed with most of your comments nor cared for your "college spirit", I did appreciate having inspirations to check out some of the unfamiliar acts. Not enough free time to check them all out, but maybe some day.
Edited by rushfan4 - October 06 2015 at 15:04
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Evolver
Special Collaborator
Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: The Idiocracy
Status: Offline
Points: 5482
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 15:00 |
micky wrote:
pffff..
you all suck. Tio Bitar should have won..
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Toe Biter? Wasn't that one of the thugs in The Road Warrior? Or was he the guy with the flaming guitar in the new Mad Max movie?
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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Evolver
Special Collaborator
Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: The Idiocracy
Status: Offline
Points: 5482
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:58 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Raff wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Honestly, I think that it is rather a shame, and quite frankly, kind of embarassing, that with all of the great modern prog bands and albums that have been released in the last 30+ years, that a debatable prog album from a non-prog band would win the modern tourney. Seems odd that the purveyors of all things prog couldn't select a more representative album of modern prog to win the modern prog portion of the tournament.
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I am not sure I understand what you mean by "purveyors of all things prog". Lots of albums were selected, and - if you remember - everyone was involved in suggesting albums. After that, people chose according to their tastes. It's called democracy. Personally, though I like Spirit of Eden a lot, I would've liked other albums to win, but I knew they did not stand a chance.
As to Spirit being "debatable" in prog terms, most modern albums - unless they reproduce classic prog modes verbatim - are likely to be called so. Just out of curiosity... Which album(s) would you have wanted to win?
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The number of great modern prog albums that have been released are too numerous to list. Certainly, albums by Steve Wilson or Porcupine Tree (hate them as much as you may) are far more representative of what "modern prog" is these days. Personally, I would have preferred to see an album by The Flower Kings, or Spock's Beard or The Tangent, or some such band win the modern side of things, but realize that this site is way to avant leaning for something like that to happen. Thus, I'd also have been more expecting to see a band come out of the prog metal side of things, given that is pretty much all modern.
I'll have to track down the brackets to be more specific to the tournament as to which bands I would have wanted to win, but I suspect that list might be fairly long too.
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This is the result of arbitrary pairings of bands throughout the poll. This type of exercise is never scientific. But you cannot deny it wasn't fun.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 66264
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:57 |
To the Dungen with you!!!
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micky
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Points: 46833
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:55 |
pffff..
you all suck. Tio Bitar should have won..
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
Status: Offline
Points: 24429
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:54 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Raff wrote:
. Just out of curiosity... Which album(s) would you have wanted to win?
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5 Suns!! 5 Suns should have won!! |
QFT . Anyway, to respond to Scott's post, I don't think the site is too avant-leaning, or at least this is not the impression I get from hanging out in the forums. The problem is that a lot of the people whose tastes are more similar to yours didn't vote, while those with more left-field tastes did. Additionally, many more people voted in the Classics polls than they did in the Moderns, because many fans of classic prog dismiss even the bands you mentioned (remember WalterDigsTunes? He's not the only one of his kind). On the other hand, many people interested in modern prog (like Ian and myself) tend to like "weirder" stuff. And, hopefully for the last time... I don't hate either PT or SW. I just don't think they're the best thing since sliced bread.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
Forum & Site Admin Group
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team
Joined: March 16 2007
Location: Boston
Status: Offline
Points: 20850
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:47 |
Raff wrote:
. Just out of curiosity... Which album(s) would you have wanted to win?
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5 Suns!! 5 Suns should have won!!
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 66264
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:45 |
Raff wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Honestly, I think that it is rather a shame, and quite frankly, kind of embarassing, that with all of the great modern prog bands and albums that have been released in the last 30+ years, that a debatable prog album from a non-prog band would win the modern tourney. Seems odd that the purveyors of all things prog couldn't select a more representative album of modern prog to win the modern prog portion of the tournament.
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I am not sure I understand what you mean by "purveyors of all things prog". Lots of albums were selected, and - if you remember - everyone was involved in suggesting albums. After that, people chose according to their tastes. It's called democracy. Personally, though I like Spirit of Eden a lot, I would've liked other albums to win, but I knew they did not stand a chance.
As to Spirit being "debatable" in prog terms, most modern albums - unless they reproduce classic prog modes verbatim - are likely to be called so. Just out of curiosity... Which album(s) would you have wanted to win?
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By "purveyors of all things prog" I meant "your ultimate prog rock resource". (I was too lazy to scroll back to the top to look at the PA slogan.) The number of great modern prog albums that have been released are too numerous to list. Certainly, albums by Steve Wilson or Porcupine Tree (hate them as much as you may) are far more representative of what "modern prog" is these days. Personally, I would have preferred to see an album by The Flower Kings, or Spock's Beard or The Tangent, or some such band win the modern side of things, but realize that this site is way to avant leaning for something like that to happen. Thus, I'd also have been more expecting to see a band come out of the prog metal side of things, given that is pretty much all modern. I'll have to track down the brackets to be more specific to the tournament as to which bands I would have wanted to win, but I suspect that list might be fairly long too.
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Raff
Special Collaborator
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Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
Status: Offline
Points: 24429
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:26 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Honestly, I think that it is rather a shame, and quite frankly, kind of embarassing, that with all of the great modern prog bands and albums that have been released in the last 30+ years, that a debatable prog album from a non-prog band would win the modern tourney. Seems odd that the purveyors of all things prog couldn't select a more representative album of modern prog to win the modern prog portion of the tournament.
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I am not sure I understand what you mean by "purveyors of all things prog". Lots of albums were selected, and - if you remember - everyone was involved in suggesting albums. After that, people chose according to their tastes. It's called democracy. Personally, though I like Spirit of Eden a lot, I would've liked other albums to win, but I knew they did not stand a chance. As to Spirit being "debatable" in prog terms, most modern albums - unless they reproduce classic prog modes verbatim - are likely to be called so. Just out of curiosity... Which album(s) would you have wanted to win?
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 66264
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:18 |
Honestly, I think that it is rather a shame, and quite frankly, kind of embarassing, that with all of the great modern prog bands and albums that have been released in the last 30+ years, that a debatable prog album from a non-prog band would win the modern tourney. Seems odd that the purveyors of all things prog couldn't select a more representative album of modern prog to win the modern prog portion of the tournament.
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Evolver
Special Collaborator
Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: The Idiocracy
Status: Offline
Points: 5482
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 14:09 |
Raff wrote:
Talk Talk and New Wave for the win!
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 13:28 |
Talk Talk and New Wave for the win !
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Svetonio
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 20 2010
Location: Serbia
Status: Offline
Points: 10213
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 13:02 |
sleeper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Yup, I just voted TT, just to piss of Svetonia... |
Me? Who I am? LOL! I am Mr. Nobody. Actually, you piss of that great prog band Anglagard, just in favour of new wave band Talk Talk |
I suspect Angalgard couldn't care less.
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Anglagard couldn't care less because they already beat all other PROG bands in that "modern prog" group, and it is good that some prog gods finally took off their masks and showing their true faces!
Edited by Svetonio - October 06 2015 at 13:02
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 12:44 |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 12:11 |
Well Hugues, that seemed to work better than expected.
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What?
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