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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21548 |
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Unfortunately I don't have one (yet). When the first Variax was available, it lacked the vibrato system and only had 22 frets. While I can live without a vibrato system, I really need 24 frets for some of my favorite songs ...
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Empathy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1864 |
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Somehow I knew you were a guitarist. ![]() So I assume you have a Variax? I've got a Vetta II (which I love), and I've been looking at picking a Variax up. Which model do you have? How do you like it? |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21548 |
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The Fender Strat is actually one of the more difficult guitars to start with. If you don't like the Variax (I'll stop promoting that one, I've done enough of that already), I'd recommend Yamaha. Their Pacifica guitars are quite versatile and the quality is ok. |
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Gedhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 21 2005 Status: Offline Points: 144 |
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Fender Strat is the one almost every guitarist cuts his teeth on before moving up to more elite models. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21548 |
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Quite the opposite. Why do you want to force him to decide whether he's a Fender or Gibson guy? The Variax is certainly a good guitar for beginners - especially the Variax 300. Hey, you not only get both Gibson and Fender sounds, but also quite good simulations of various acoustic guitars including a 12 string guitar. I'd rather say the reverse: The Variax is NOT a guitar for pros, because the sounds are not as good as the genuine versions. But they're DAMN good, and certainly better than cheap versions of Fender and Gibson guitars. BTW: If you use your computer to play music, you might want to consider buying the GuitarPort instead of a fully fledged amp. Its sound is as good as that of the POD XT ... Edited by MikeEnRegalia |
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porter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 07 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 362 |
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since you're a beginner, I would suggest not to go too far with brands and especially money, so you'd better choose a cheap guitar...there are some good brands like Epiphone, if you like the les paul style, or maybe you could opt for a Mexican or Japanese Fender, if you like the strat. PLEASE LEAVE ALONE THE VARIAX at this stage, I think it could be a little confusing since, as you said, you still haven't played a scale on a guitar. That's a guitar for the pro's, or for people who already know what they need and what they don't.
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"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")
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Reverie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 14 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 626 |
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Very true Mike! Certainly different constructions and wood types yeild different attributes to the sound, but i think both bolt on necks, neck throughs, hollow bodies etc. all have a place in prog, depending on where you want to take your prog music. I mean prog rock can be a pretty open style of music. But yeah i hadn't really thought of that.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21548 |
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^^ That's certainly true. But no matter how talent someone is, he cannot make a Gibson Les Paul sound like a Fender Stratocaster. That's because the wood of the guitars is entirely different, the neck construction as well (Gibson: Neck is glued to the corpus, Fender: Neck is attached using screws). You will never get a Gibson to "twang", even my Gibson Nuighthawk doesn't twang, and it has single coils. The twang is caused by the wood of the Strat/Tele guitars and the bolts in the neck. |
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cobb ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head though, Reverie
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Reverie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 14 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 626 |
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In my opinion, when it comes to tone shaping, most of the work is done by the pickups and the amp rather than the guitar itself. I have an Ibanez RG which is designed for metalheads and shredder types, but i can get prog rock out of it or jazz even. This sounds really cliche and over-used but it's so true: the real tone comes from your hands, the amp just colours it. A few years back i was doing work experience in a recording studio and the guy who ran it told us (me and the other work experience dude) to bring our stuff in and record something. So i brought this RG in and all i had at the time was a little 21w samick amp and a boss metalzone (being the tonedeaf metalhead i was Well that anecdote was pretty useless but i was reminded of it |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21548 |
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The Variax 300 is priced around $450, quite a bargain if you consider that it's really several totally different guitars packed into one instrument. The only drawback is that it doesn't have a vibrato bar, and 22 frets instead of 24. But those are problems that many other guitars have as well. BTW: Currently I play an ESP Standard Horizon NT-II, which also has no vibrato system. |
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cobb ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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If you are just starting out go and buy the cheapest one that sounds
okay- at this stage it doesn't have to be a name brand. After all, you
might not like playing the guitar. It may also be well to remember that
playing a guitar is a bit of a conundrum. It is very easy to learn, but
exceptionally difficult to master.
ps. this thread will get moved shortly Edited by cobb |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21548 |
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I would recommend the Line 6 Variax 300, it offers several guitar sounds - Fender, Gibson, Acoustic, ... http://www.line6.com/variax/specifications.html It really works, and such a guitar can save you a lot of money. You can switch between the sound of a Fender Stratocaster and that of a Gibson Les Paul in no time. |
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Ben2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 870 |
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Yep the American Standard Fender Strat has been of the best guitar values for decades. You can probably buy one brand new for right around your money limit.
And if you don't want to spend quite that much money, the Mexican made Strats run around 300-400 dollars (U.S.), I think. Edited by Ben2112 |
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TheProgtologist ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
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I am not a guitar player,I am a drummer,and you will probably get a lot more informed opinions than mine,but most of the guitarists I know and play with swear by the Fender Stratocaster.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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the first two that come to mind are of course the Fender Stratocaster
and the Gibson Les Paul. I have no idea about their prices in the USA
though
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Storm-Crow ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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Hey guys, Ill get right to the point, instead of my usual introductory "fluff". Im attempting to take up the electric guitar-- I already have a good knowledge of music, being a capable musician at several woodwind instruments, and would ideally like to become a more well-rounded musician (+ the electric guitar has always looked like such a kick ass in-your-face instrument, unlike woodwinds unfortunetely Im completely ignorant to the world of guitars and have done a bit of reseach to try to get myself up to speed. Yet, the problem is that these days most guitars seem to be geared towards hardcore metal heads, and create a sound much too harsh for my liking-- unless im willing fork out over $1000, b4 ive ever so much as played a scale on the guitar. I was wondering if there was anyone out there who knows something about this field and could recommend some electric guitar models and/or companies which produce a sound in which the loudness is not so much emphasized, but the sound quality, and anything else that is important to electric guitars which are geared towards progressive rock. My price range is pretty much anything up to about $600--- most desirably below $400 US ($500 Canadian.) Much appreciated |
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