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ExittheLemming View Drop Down

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Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:40

It pains me to agree with the wee beige pixie but yeah, the proffered similarity is about as tenuous as one of Sventonio's shoo-ins for 'Prog Masterpiece'

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Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:30

Green Shield Stamp wrote:

Not a rip off but there IS a similarity.

How so? The fact that they both happen to rhyme?

DEEP PURPLE:

Spread the word around
The rat is leaving town
The message is a song
The misery is gone

Once I had a dream
To sing before the queen
She didn't want to know
She wouldn't see the show

What a fright
I couldn't do it right
Oh what a night

ELP:

Soon the Gypsy Queen in a glaze of vaseline
Will perform on guillotine, what a scene, what a scene
Next upon the stand will you please extend a hand
To Alexander's Ragtime Band, Dixieland, Dixieland

Roll up, roll up, roll up
See the show

Performing on a stool we've a sight to make you drool
Seven virgins and a mule, keep it cool, keep it cool
We would like it to be known the exhibits that were shown
Were exclusively our own, all our own, all our own

Yes, they both rhyme, and they both contain words, some of which are the same (particularly prepositions and articles). Yet the rhyme scheme in Deep Purple's song is for the most part AABB, while in the ELP example (the scheme changes from 1st to 2nd to 3rd Impression) it is AAAABBBB. Additionally, no one could ever accuse Deep Purple of profundity in their lyrics, nor of ELP borrowing from Purple.

Edited by The Dark Elf - April 24 2015 at 11:42

...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:47

Not a rip off but there IS a similarity.

Haiku

Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....

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Posted: April 24 2015 at 09:27

I don't hear any similarity whatsoever (and like both bands) but despite that, just because any two musical ideas may have some common attributes, doesn't automatically mean plagiarism is afoot....

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Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:49

As both a huge ELP and Deep Purple fan and a sound engineer I will also say...

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

But don't feel bad, not everyone can distinguish melody and cadence differences like others. As long as you enjoy what you hear.

Thank you for supporting independently produced music

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Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:31

It is just you. No, really, not even close in cadence, lyricism or execution.

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Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:38

It seems to me, ELP's Karn Evil 9 1st Impression Part II and Deep Purple's Flight of The Rat have pretty much similar vocal melody. Though the riff is not identical, I can hear the influence of Purple's Rat in ELP song. Is it true, or is it just me? Smile